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Old 03-18-2016, 08:48 AM   #11
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The 12v outlets Escape uses are about 4 plus inches deep....
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Old 03-18-2016, 08:55 AM   #12
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here is a picture of the rear
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Ah, yeah. The cigarette lighter plug. I was mostly thinking of other low volatage, like we use in homes which can even be surface mounted. I guess a junction box would be needed to protect the wires.

Which brings up another thought. Why the heck are we still using these antiquated plugs? The cigarette lighter is almost 100 years old, and rarely put into vehicles now, other than for power points. There are plenty of other 12V connectors that would work. I think the problem is that there are so many consumer products that still use these cigarette type connections. Hmmmm..... something new to add to the list of things to consider.
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Old 03-18-2016, 09:25 AM   #14
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Yes, I'm going to have both types in Prairie Schooner, the old and the new....
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Does Escape have a new type of 12V plug? Have to look into it later, as I am on my phone now.
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Old 03-18-2016, 10:09 AM   #16
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Jim and Jim, by 'new' do you mean USB style plugs? I bought a couple of the 12 volt outlets that just have USB charging. But they don't work for things like our 12volt TV or the 12 volt chargers for our laptops. I haven't installed my USB outlets yet, but will install them somewhere in the dining area for charging phones and tablets.
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Yes they offer the newer USB style for $75 vs $50 for the older style. You get one as standard in your new unit, the newer style that is.
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Old 03-18-2016, 10:13 AM   #18
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Leon, I was not referring to the USB ports which are lower voltage (5V?). II was wishing for something newer, more compact than the cigarette lighter style. Heck, I quit smoking 30 years ago.

If Escape now has something, I am keen to see what it is. Progress must be made, dammit!
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I'd like to see the Merit Engel type sockets replace the cigarette lighter type. They have much better contacts and are only about an inch deep. they make surface mounted ones too that would not require clearance behind a panel. Of course, in North America, they don't make alot of 12V devices with that type of plug.
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I'd like to see the Merit Engel type sockets replace the cigarette lighter type. They have much better contacts and are only about an inch deep. they make surface mounted ones too that would not require clearance behind a panel. Of course, in North America, they don't make alot of 12V devices with that type of plug.
I have used their plugs for both 12V and USB, but the 12V is still the cigarette style connection. Do you know of another 12V connection they have.

The surface mount units would work good under upper cabinets.
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