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Old 12-29-2015, 08:17 PM   #11
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We need to get our build sheet in real soon now.

We are having a hard time deciding on whether to go with the permanent bed or a rear dinette option. We have a family so we will have to set up a dinette one way or the other. (We will also get the cot option). I think we would also get a marine type pedestal on whichever table we decide would get set up daily. Our concern is how comfortable the cushions are going to be to sleep on. Also concerns with losing the underbed storage. Crystal mentioned that there are a few rear dinettes built each year. For those with 19's, any regrets one way or the other?
If we can tell by what we have heard on the forum, it is exceedingly rare that someone would switch those spaces. Many people do not want to make up a bed every day but you may have to with children. Making up two beds, well, you are changing what many consider to be the best feature of these trailers which is a permanent bed and then another space that is a dinette (that can also seat more than two people).

In your case, since everyone can fit at the table, I don't know why you would want to change the queen bed. Seems the standard configuration would work. I have seen one of those trailers with the switched spaces and I guess it was perhaps a matter of having more table space or lounge space at the back, with the front bed (where the dinette usually goes) being left as the permanent bed apparently.

No, the cushions are not comfortable and a topper that others mentioned would be good.
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Old 12-29-2015, 08:25 PM   #12
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Where are you three exterior hatches? Did you put them in or did Escape do it?
Our hatches are right front, left front and right rear.'the left rear has the water hookup and the hot water tank and the attached electrical cord storage. They were all factory installed by the original owner. They are identical in size and are keyed alike. Tools etc in right front. Under bed storage of camp chairs,'right rear and water hose, pressure regulator etc in left front.
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Old 12-29-2015, 08:29 PM   #13
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No, the cushions are not comfortable and a topper that others mentioned would be good.
I'm fine with the cushions until the morning of the third night sleeping on them. It's then that my hips want to know where the topper went. I don't think kids would notice that it was missing, so I wouldn't worry about them, if you were.
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I'm fine with the cushions until the morning of the third night sleeping on them. It's then that my hips want to know where the topper went. I don't think kids would notice that it was missing, so I wouldn't worry about them, if you were.
True! If it is kids, they probably would think they're great cushions.
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If we can tell by what we have heard on the forum, it is exceedingly rare that someone would switch those spaces. Many people do not want to make up a bed every day but you may have to with children. Making up two beds, well, you are changing what many consider to be the best feature of these trailers which is a permanent bed and then another space that is a dinette (that can also seat more than two people).

In your case, since everyone can fit at the table, I don't know why you would want to change the queen bed. Seems the standard configuration would work. I have seen one of those trailers with the switched spaces and I guess it was perhaps a matter of having more table space or lounge space at the back, with the front bed (where the dinette usually goes) being left as the permanent bed apparently.

No, the cushions are not comfortable and a topper that others mentioned would be good.
In my case, if I was ever to get a case of 2 footitis, I'd put a permanent bed in front, and a "U" shaped dinette in the back. I travel single, so the smaller front bed is a good size for me (it would be the same as my current permanent bed that replaces the 4 person dinette in my 17B). This would allow for a larger table and the "U" shaped dinette in back. The main thing I miss in my 17 is a table large enough to comfortably fit 4 people. According to Tammy, the switch is a $500.00 option...
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Old 12-30-2015, 12:31 PM   #16
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The main thing I miss in my 17 is a table large enough to comfortably fit 4 people.
Yep, that's why we have a 19. Went out "one last time" to ETI to tire kick, ready to put down a deposit on the 17 but took a quick look in a 19, a size that we'd already determined we didn't need. But we looked at the difference in the dinette size and knew that was now the size for us.

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Old 12-30-2015, 02:03 PM   #17
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Thanks again for the feedback.

We definitely need two sleeping areas. When we need seating we would only set up one area (unless we are having a real big inside party I wonder how many could fit in 2U's?). I suppose if we had a topper on the rear U we could walk it over to the front bed area or maybe have two side-by-side smaller toppers. I think we would have the front area made into a permanent bed if it wasn't so narrow - 44" is just too small for two people. I agree the cushions (and cot) are okay for kids.
By the way, you cannot have the table hinge option on a 19'.
Still don't think we've heard from someone who actually has a rear U?
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In my case, if I was ever to get a case of 2 footitis, I'd put a permanent bed in front, and a "U" shaped dinette in the back. I travel single, so the smaller front bed is a good size for me (it would be the same as my current permanent bed that replaces the 4 person dinette in my 17B). This would allow for a larger table and the "U" shaped dinette in back. The main thing I miss in my 17 is a table large enough to comfortably fit 4 people. According to Tammy, the switch is a $500.00 option...
Really no reason to switch a bed on a 19' if you have to get another tow vehicle. Might as well just get a 21' with the space. No need to change the bed, and the bed is a little bigger.
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In my case, if I was ever to get a case of 2 footitis, I'd put a permanent bed in front, and a "U" shaped dinette in the back. I travel single, so the smaller front bed is a good size for me (it would be the same as my current permanent bed that replaces the 4 person dinette in my 17B). This would allow for a larger table and the "U" shaped dinette in back. The main thing I miss in my 17 is a table large enough to comfortably fit 4 people. According to Tammy, the switch is a $500.00 option...
Jon, you're not the only single traveler that's thought of this configuration. A comfortable front bed, big rear dinette and still a bit smaller trailer than the 21'. I know someone else that's currently looking to buy... and hopes a used trailer with this configuration comes up for sale.
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Old 12-30-2015, 09:29 PM   #20
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We have a 19 with a permanent bed in the front and the bench seat dinette in the back. We like it and think it advantageous. We convert the dinette to a bed each night. No complaints about comfort. In the morning we take the "bedding" from the queen dinette bed, fold it up, and put it on the bed in the front. Not a big deal.
As for storage, I suppose there would be more under the queen dinette. And, originally the storage under the front bed had to be accessed via lifting the bed. So, I put in a couple drawers under the front bed to facilitate access. Works great.
The rear dinette makes the dinette area larger. I would think it would be easier to seat four at a rear dinette vs. front. Don't really know.
Anyway, we love it and wouldn't have it any other way.
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