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Old 03-17-2016, 03:34 PM   #1
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20 Questions about the 5.0 TA

Hello,

I’m considering purchasing a 5.0 TA. Any help with the following questions will be appreciated!

1. Is it difficult making the bed up in the loft? Have you found any tricks to doing so?

2. Is it tricky to clean the areas on each side of the bed?

3. Is the standard mattress comfortable? And do you have any difficulties with getting in or out?

4. How much outside storage comes standard and are there tricks to increasing outside storage?

5. How much space does the optional “Exterior Access Hatch (Rear Passenger Side)” make accessible from the outside?

6. How much space is taken up by the fifth wheel hitch in the back of the trailer-bed when towing, and have you found a way to still efficiently utilize any of the front or sides of bed? I’m considering getting an 8-foot bed and it would be great to maximize storage in front (or along the sides) of the hitch.

7. How much weight can be put on the bike rack in the back? I might want to put small motorocycle/scooter back there at some point down the road.

8. Has anyone found a good solution to carrying a generator for the fifth wheel?

9. Are both the battery and the propane tanks in the fifth wheel’s exterior front compartment?

10. Any idea why the trailer only has a 5,500 lb GVWR when it has two 3,000 lb axles?

11. Is the roof walk-able for maintenance?

12. Any idea how much the thermal windows, added insulation, sprayed underbelly and A/C might add to the dry weight? What is your dry weight with all your options?

13. Are there any features in the trailer to protect from lightning strikes?

14. I looked at the owner’s manual and it has the typical warning about condensation and extended usage. Have many people successfully full-timed or camped for extended periods in the unit? I’m assuming it to be possible as long as appropriate venting is allowed etc.

15. Do the all the upper cabinets utilize the space all the way to the ceiling or is there wasted space? It appears that there might be wasted space about the fridge.

16. What kind of temperatures might be comfortably camped with and without the added insulation options?

17. Are the kitchen counters residential height? 36 inches?

18. has anyone added awnings to the windows in an escape? It seems like a great way to keep the unit cooler in the summer.

19. Has anyone added shocks to their trailer? …like found in the Arctic Fox, Airstream and Oliver trailers.

20. Overall, how happy have you been with your 5.0TA and do you see the need to upgrade or downgrade down the road?
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Old 03-17-2016, 03:47 PM   #2
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Eric, your profile indicates you are from Florida. Since you choose to list your location as Earth, I have no clue how close you might be to me. I am located approximately 30 miles north of Tampa and you are welcome to view my 5.0TA. Seeing one "in the flesh" will likely answer your questions better than any respondents to your post. PM me if you are interested and I will provide you a phone number to call me.
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8. Has anyone found a good solution to carrying a generator for the fifth wheel?
The usual practice is to carry the generator in the truck box, although that means some sort of method is likely appropriate to prevent theft..
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9. Are both the battery and the propane tanks in the fifth wheel’s exterior front compartment?
The propane is in the lower front compartment. The battery is not - if I recall correctly, it is located the same as in the 21': under the dinette seat (at the back if a U-shaped dinette, curbside otherwise).
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10. Any idea why the trailer only has a 5,500 lb GVWR when it has two 3,000 lb axles?
Axle capacity is only one factor contributing to Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. The trailer is designed to carry its own weight plus water and a substantial cargo load suitable for the trailer's purpose... and that worked out to 5,500 pounds. Tandem axle trailers do not necessarily share the load equally between the axles, so the 3,000 pound Gross Axle Weight Rating (per axle) allows for one axle to carry a bit more load than the other.
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11. Is the roof walk-able for maintenance?
No, generally an Escape roof is not intended to support a person... and there is no need to. Much larger RVs, especially those with roof materials that need maintenance, need the roof to be walkable.
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Thanks Carl. I sent you a PM and will gladly take you up your offer! I'm not sure seeing the trailer in person will answer all the questions though.

Anyone with input, please feel free to answer any of the questions above that might not be easily answered by viewing a trailer.
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No, generally an Escape roof is not intended to support a person... and there is no need to. Much larger RVs, especially those with roof materials that need maintenance, need the roof to be walkable.
Thanks for all the replies. Don't the seals around the airconditioner etc still need to be re-caulked? And how do you clean the center roof area?
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19. Has anyone added shocks to their trailer? …like found in the Arctic Fox, Airstream and Oliver trailers.
Probably not.

The current 5.0TA has leaf springs, like the Arctic Fox and Oliver. Steel leaf springs provide very little damping, so some kind of damping is appropriate for best ride and handling. Shock absorbers are the best way to do this, but Escape uses the Dexter E-Z Flex rubber-cushioned equalizer between the springs to smooth and control suspension motion.

The 2017 5.0TA will reportedly change to the Torflex suspension used by all other Escape models (and Airstreams). Airstream is the only manufacturer to offer shock absorbers with Torflex (or similar) suspension in North America, although there have been retrofit kits available and custom modifications have been done by many owners. Escape has never offered shock absorbers, and as far as I know, no Escape owners have added shock absorbers.
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Thanks for all the replies. Don't the seals around the airconditioner etc still need to be re-caulked? And how do you clean the center roof area?
Re-caulking is relatively infrequent, and can usually be done from the side by leaning in... and leaning on the trailer, without actually standing on it.

Escape uses the MaxxFan power vent; you can remove the vent by removing only four screws, leaving the mounting frame in place. It is then possible to reach up through the vent opening from inside for some work.

A car/RV wash brush on handle reaches the centre, assuming that you have a ladder or platform to stand on so your shoulders are above roof level.

The 5.0TA is the same width as the 21 Foot (although taller, especially at the front) so the experience of Escape 21 Foot owners would also be applicable.
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