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Old 01-26-2015, 04:43 PM   #11
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1. Can't really comment on the TV, as we never watch one. Maybe upon retirement though. I have twice before just used my laptop, and that worked fine for us.

2. I have an under cabinet mounted stereo, that will also play DVD's, though we have never used that feature. While it works fine, I would not do it again, and instead opt for a portable option, giving us much more flexibility in use. Lots of great ones out there, including Bose.

3. We like hanging clothes, and pack them in tight on hangers. We find in our 19 there is adequate shelf space in the upper cabinets. If doing shelves, I would opt to do them myself.

4. No clue what these tank probes are. The stock ones have worked good for us.

5. Like you, we always use campground facilities if they have them. I have not been in a 5.0TA shower, but it has to be at least as big as in our 19, which works just fine. Not super big, but gets the job done, while taking up as little space as possible from the rest of the trailer. For myself, I would not get the sink. We never use ours.

6. The stock showerhead seems to work fine, but take this with a grain of salt from someone with no hair to wash.

7. Can't comment on the Texas fan, but it seems to be a good thing, if you do need it.

8. Must be lots of new stuff, not sure what the fridge fix is.

9. You certainly could mount the table later yourself. Aside from the bed in our trailer, the table (as large as possible) is the next most important and used thing in our trailer. We don't eat at it lots, but it is used as a marshalling area for all sorts of things, and a hold-all for stuff that need a temporary home.

10. A backup camera is something I would not consider myself, so will let others address this.

11. I had to add them to my trailer after the fact, as the bikes covered the existing ones, so if you plan to put anything on the back receiver, it would be cheap safety insurance.

12. Don't have A/C (yet), but from all I have heard, this heat strip is pretty weak performance wise. We do carry a small cube heater, which works fantastic, if we have access to 120V power.

13. I don't think they can put power outlets in cabinets. I know that you definitely can't do 120V outlets in an enclosed cupboard, as it is against code.

14. An awning light strip is a personal choice. Some seen to like them, I definitely don't. We only use the porch light as a task light too, and don't leave it on to bother others.

15. They are neat hooks, though it is real easy to install to suit your needs once you give the trailer a try.

16. I don't use a hitch lock. (I know, I know, I really should)

17. There is one steel retractable step.

18. Don't forget that you can add just about anything after you bring your trailer home. Some times it is better to just get out and use it, to show what you might need to fit your camping style. Personally, I think most people get caught up with all the worrying, and opt to include almost everything they can think of, just in case.
Jim ,Where in the NEC does it state you can not install receptacles in cabinet?
I have installed hundreds of receptacles in cabinets ( garbage disposals , hot water heaters
dishwashers ,stereo equipment ,TV, microwaves ,appliance garages,, entertainment centers, etc etc. One concern is if the outlet is a flush mount ,the box has to extend out so it is flush with the finished surface of the cabinet ( Flush with combustible material ) The outlet has to be accessible after final installation and allow visible inspection of all wiring
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:44 PM   #12
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For those who install shelves in the closet, where do you put tall items like a broom?
A broom? Who does clean up while camping?
Actually, we use a Camco Telescopic broom, that comes with a dustpan. Works great for sweeping crap off the awning too.

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Old 01-26-2015, 04:54 PM   #13
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Thanks Jim, never gave telescoping a thought.
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Old 01-26-2015, 06:11 PM   #14
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Very glad to have the captain's lights in dinette to read and are adjustable. Would not get the EZ lube again after research shows it primarily being intended for marine use and the fact you need to do annual inspection anyway.

We did not have the table installed in our u-dinette and instead use the two flip up counters. It would be very easy to put the ETI supplied hardware in later. If we ever did install the table(not likely) we would use a different mounting system. Lastly we have two filler boards; second one comes in handy for either the total lounge concept or for a bed. We store the boards under the mattress. I would suggest you have ETI install 2 pins in the first one as you will probably always want it there. Otherwise you have to remove it during travel as it can slide forward/off during braking.
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Old 01-26-2015, 06:18 PM   #15
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A broom? Who does clean up while camping?
Actually, we use a Camco Telescopic broom, that comes with a dustpan. Works great for sweeping crap off the awning too.

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Great idea, Jim. Your post reminded me that without a full length closet we could use one of these as well. Available from Amazon.ca for about $15. Our build sheet deadline is approaching, as is the camping season!

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Old 01-26-2015, 06:25 PM   #16
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Thanks everyone for the quick responses. Keep them coming!

Vermilye, yes I am in an area that allows Triple Towing and my wife and I may occasionally tow a light skiff to fish. Triple Towing was also one of the motivations for considering a Backup Camera. I was hoping wireless technology had improved in that area.

Padlin, thanks for the heads up on the Sta-Put hangers and all the other information. Regarding the Horst Tank Probes, I haven't heard directly from Horst but everyone I have called have stated that are discontinued. The one place I found them in stock told me that what they have is all that is available, they are being discontinued.

I have never owned a trailer with tank monitoring of any kind but the reading I have done seems to indicate that the probes that Escape uses are prone to not working. Is this because folks aren't cleaning their tanks? I am OK with that on the Black Tank as I suspect that is a matter of cleaning the tanks and probe with a tank wand. I am just not sure how to clean the probes on the Gray Tank.

My concern with the Oxygenics was it being have and damaging the fiberglass shower if it happens slip from you hand while showering or fall during travel. Does it really increase water from the showerhead AND use less water?

KarenH, I wasn't sure how bright the Captain's Lights were. I other camper didn't have any. Maybe I should just stick with the 2 in the bed area. Our eyes aren't getting younger. Hmmm...

Regarding the extra brake lights, I was thinking that the 5.0TA already has them there.

Jim Bennett, thanks for all those responses! I think you are right - trying to include almost everything, just in case. We normally like to use things and then modify as and if needed. With the Escape, I just wasn't sure how easy it would to add something after the fact (backup camera, stereo, television, etc.). We will likely eliminate things off the build sheet as the cost rises. We already have the broom!

Gbaglo, I thought I had read somewhere that the Fridge Fix didn't work in one of the 6.7 Single Door models.

PGDriver, your setup sounds like what I want. The problem is that I am not savvy to all that is need to setup the TV for what I want. I will try to talk with Reace. Heck, our other trailer didn't even have a hookup for a TV. We did watch DVDs on a laptop though.

Rossue, I have the EZ Lube system on 2 boat trailers and really like it. Is it even an option with the tandem spring axle 5.0TA. I didn't realize you could have 2 filler boards for the U-Shaped Dinette. We will look into that! Are you suggesting to make one of these filler boards permanent or semi-permanent by having ETI install 2 pins? Does the 2 filler boards have 2 additional cushions? Sorry if I am misunderstanding what you are saying!

Thanks again for the responses! Keep them coming as we need all the advice we can get.
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Not sure EZ lube an option for 5.0; just saw it on your list. Yes- suggest semi-permanent for first filler board. Each board you order comes with a cushion. At $100 CAD each its less than I could get one made here.
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I would agree to get any wiring you may want down the road done now, like the TV antenna/amp, stereo, and backup camera. It's worth the fee to not have to run your own cables should you decide to use them later.

Some of the folks have a 2nd TV antenna drop put in. On the 5.0TA the standard location is in the upper cabinets by the foot of the bed on the passengers side, which is where the swivel arm and tv go if you get those. If you want the TV at the table, you have to either go the 2nd drop route or use a 12 foot or so cable, which is what I did the 1 time we tried it.

I heard EZ lube was standard now.

I had walls 1,2,4, and 5 reinforced, I've only used 2 and 5 so far for the Umbro's.

I would suggest getting 12 volts run to the closet, it's pretty dark in there as none of the overheads hits it. I ran 12 volts to it this winter and installed an LED strip and switch, would have been a lot easier if power was available there.
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Do most folks install a 2nd TV in a 5.0TA and if so,where? I was hoping that we would be able to watch the TV that is in the normal 5.0TA position while we are seated in the dinette area.

Also, what size TV would be best?

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Do most folks install a 2nd TV in a 5.0TA and if so,where? I was hoping that we would be able to watch the TV that is in the normal 5.0TA position while we are seated in the dinette area.

Also, what size TV would be best?

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You can see the TV OK from the dinette.
22" is what Tammy told us was the TV size.

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