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Old 11-15-2018, 11:50 PM   #1
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90 Degree Entry Door



We're currently in Sequoia National Park, three weeks into our maiden voyage with our 5.0 TA we picked up on October 26. I had previously talked in another thread about being informed we would not be getting a friction entry door, but instead would be getting the 90 degree entry door. Forgive me if this has already been posted, but when I talked about it a month ago no one seemed to know about this door.

It opens a little over 90 degrees (more than the pictures show) and has a hydraulic cylinder at the bottom to dampen the opening/closing. The door opens at a nice pace and stays open until closed. It seemed awkward at first, but after three weeks we really like it. No stiff door like the friction doors and don't have to clip it open like the old fashioned free swinging doors. Of course the jury is out long term, but it's the best door we've had on a camper so far.

When we get home in December I'll post more about the various build features we chose and how they worked out.

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Old 11-16-2018, 12:25 AM   #2
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Thanks for the update...
I am not sure I would like this as we keep the door open as much as possible and I consider this more awkward than open.
Looks like you have drip rails over the windows as well.
Enjoy your new trailer and trip...looking forward to your updates later.
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Old 11-16-2018, 06:40 AM   #3
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I know we all have different taste but I agree I like the door to open all the way. I also wonders what happens if you lose your balance entering or exiting the trailer and fall into the door what would happen?
We have the 1st generation and would say only thing we miss is the pass through in the screen door that we had in our Casita.
Enjoy your maiden journey and look forward to hearing more.

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Old 11-16-2018, 07:31 AM   #4
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I know we all have different taste but I agree I like the door to open all the way. I also wonders what happens if you lose your balance entering or exiting the trailer and fall into the door what would happen?
We have the 1st generation and would say only thing we miss is the pass through in the screen door that we had in our Casita.
Enjoy your maiden journey and look forward to hearing more.
That was one of my first concerns when we saw the 90 degree door.

The door is robust enough not to bend or break if someone were to lose their balance. I actually don't want to think what would happen if I lost my balance and didn't have a door to help guide me half the time. I believe this provides safety in a balance situation.

Fifteen years ago Terry lost her balance stepping out our previous 5th wheel with too small steps, like Escape, Scamp, Casita have, and fell. She didn't break anything, but now in her 60's, who knows what would happen. When losing balance leaving the camper we tend to fall forward and the door would provide a guide 50% of the time.

Because of that fall we purchased a large adjustable step and have used it on all our campers since then. We feel much safer with that step there before we reach the ground. The other day we had to raise the door side to level the trailer. If we only had the Escape provided step the final step to the ground would be much to high for safety. I find that much more of a concern than the 90 degree door, but I see many campers not have a adjustable step in that situation.

The door is also constructed so you can remove the hydraulic cylinder and have a conventional door that you could lock in place if you installed the locking mechanism on the door and side of the camper. I do know of one friction door that has loosened and no longer works as a friction door.

It will be interesting to hear other's opinions who actually have used the door for some time, and also Rease's reason for the door change.

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Old 11-16-2018, 07:46 AM   #5
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Thanks for the update...
I am not sure I would like this as we keep the door open as much as possible and I consider this more awkward than open.
Looks like you have drip rails over the windows as well.
Enjoy your new trailer and trip...looking forward to your updates later.
If you get the frameless window option, Escape installs the drip rails, framed windows do not have this accessory.
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First I've heard of this door. Not sure how we will like it on our soon to be built 5.0TA. We often like to have the front door open and screen door closed, seems like this will restrict the view out the front door quite a bit. Sure seems like it would catch a lot of wind when it's open 90 degrees in a breeze. This wouldn't be the first "new thing" that my initial reaction has been negative to and then upon using it I found that it was just fine, so I'll reserve judgement until we've used it.
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:25 AM   #7
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First I've heard of this door. Not sure how we will like it on our soon to be built 5.0TA. We often like to have the front door open and screen door closed, seems like this will restrict the view out the front door quite a bit. Sure seems like it would catch a lot of wind when it's open 90 degrees in a breeze.
The open door with closed screen offers plenty of view and yet it stops people walking by from looking in your camper giving you more privacy.

We usually have the door open in a breeze and have done this on our maiden voyage, but on our older campers had it closed in heavy gusts anyway, so time will tell if this is a problem.

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Old 11-16-2018, 08:43 AM   #8
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We saw this new door and strut combination on our visit to ETI in October. Its their new solution to the friction door. Their explanation was that the original door with the latch to hold it open had complaints from owners so they went to the friction door. Complaints again. The new frictionless door and strut is their latest solution. I have my doubts as well since it only opens 90 degrees. We like the door wide open when possible. I am thinking the strut can easily be removed if we dont like it and I can install a retainer on the door and trailer if necessary.

Like others, Id like to hear what other owners experience is before we pick up our new 5.0 next summer.
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We saw this new door and strut combination on our visit to ETI in October. Its their new solution to the friction door. Their explanation was that the original door with the latch to hold it open had complaints from owners so they went to the friction door. Complaints again. The new frictionless door and strut is their latest solution.
I wonder if this door was on display when we were at ETI in late September and we just didn't notice it? I guess there's no pleasing everyone....however, what I see is another example of ETI continually making changes to their product in response to customer feedback - how many RV manufacturers do that?
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:59 AM   #10
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I have now had both, the "friction" door and the"90 degree" door. I much prefer the friction door. I would like the door to open all the way, but my biggest concern is the screen door. It doesn't go all the way to the threshold. it stops a couple of inches short to allow for the opening cylinder. There is a brush like material to try and cover the opening, but it doesn't work very well, it gets bent sideways leaving holes for bugs to come through. I don't consider the 90 degree door a step forward in the evolution of Escape trailers. It will be interesting to see what the creative minds on this forum come up with for a fix.
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:46 AM   #11
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We have had our 21' for 11 days and I have to say the new door is a big improvement over anything we've had in the past.
My biggest complaint about previous doors was the tendency to get away from you in windy conditions and slamming back into the side of the trailer. The best solution to that problem was to install rubber door bumpers on the door and side of the trailer. That worked until we had a trailer that had an awning type window right behind the door. We quickly learned to never open that window.
We don't have a problem with leaving the door open for fresh air. We also don't feel that any view outside is impaired by the open door. If anything, it helps to keep people from seeing in as easily because it is open.
I suppose if you wanted, you could disconnect and remove the control arm to allow the door to open all the way. To each his/her own.
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:38 AM   #12
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I can definitely see some of the pluses that folks mention on this door.
It wouldn’t work for us personally as we live outside under the awning and this impedes into the usable outdoor sitting/living space. Thinking over past camping we always have chairs sitting right in the space where the new door is when its open. We want the door open when are on the patio for various reasons, so closing the door to get it out of the way wouldnt be a solution.
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Have the new door on our 19’RFP, and like it. Easier going in & out of Trailer with your arms full. Simple to open & let her go, no need to latch, push, or secure. Did need to add a small foam back spacer on trailer side of screen latch. Plus I like the pass-tru in screen door.
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When we picked up our 21' in September, another couple was there, also picking up a 21'. ETI mentioned that we had the 'old' friction door and the other trailer had the 'new' door (first we had heard of the door change). The other couple didn't realize it only opened to 90 and weren't happy but Reace explained about how to remove the arm at the bottom of the door in order to allow it to open fully. Having had the 'old' door on our 19' and now the friction door, I have no preference one way or another. Don't think I would be thrilled with the new 90 door, but it's nice to know there's a work-around.
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When we picked up our 21' in September, another couple was there, also picking up a 21'. ETI mentioned that we had the 'old' friction door and the other trailer had the 'new' door (first we had heard of the door change). The other couple didn't realize it only opened to 90 and weren't happy but Reace explained about how to remove the arm at the bottom of the door in order to allow it to open fully. Having had the 'old' door on our 19' and now the friction door, I have no preference one way or another. Don't think I would be thrilled with the new 90 door, but it's nice to know there's a work-around.


Any idea what Reace told them? We are thinking about permanently removing it but if there is an easy way to temporarily detach it to open the door fully that may meet our needs.
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I only know that Reace told them they couldn't swap out the 90 door for the friction because of the mounting. He said if they wanted to open the door fully, they could (temporarily) undo the tension arm at the bottom. You might want to call ETI to find out how easy it is to remove.
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Any idea what Reace told them? We are thinking about permanently removing it but if there is an easy way to temporarily detach it to open the door fully that may meet our needs.
This works to keep the old door from crushing the open front awning window on the 19. It may also work on the new door if you undo the strut.
It is two magnetic tipped door stops used tip to tip. Fully automatic...
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You might want to call ETI to find out how easy it is to remove.
Remove four screws. Perhaps two or three minutes of your time.

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We're currently in Sequoia National Park, three weeks into our maiden voyage with our 5.0 TA we picked up on October 26. I had previously talked in another thread about being informed we would not be getting a friction entry door, but instead would be getting the 90 degree entry door. Forgive me if this has already been posted, but when I talked about it a month ago no one seemed to know about this door.

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When we get home in December I'll post more about the various build features we chose and how they worked out.

Enjoy,

Perry


we have the friction door and thought it worked pretty good. Never thought there was any complaints on it. Have thought about a latch to keep it open in heavy breeze. Think if I had the 90 degree set up I would remove that piston. Not immediately as Im always open to something different.

What Im really interested in is the gutter set up. These are now standard on the awning windows?
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What Im really interested in is the gutter set up. These are now standard on the awning windows?

I believe theyre now standard issue, but our 2017 did not come so equipped, however, when I first heard about them I contacted ETI and asked if they would be available for those of us with the frameless windows whose trailers were built prior to their advent, and was told Sure!, so picked up a set gratis when I was up there for other business a couple of months ago. Easy to self-install and a nice, clean design.
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