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Old 11-15-2018, 11:50 PM   #1
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90 Degree Entry Door



We're currently in Sequoia National Park, three weeks into our maiden voyage with our 5.0 TA we picked up on October 26. I had previously talked in another thread about being informed we would not be getting a friction entry door, but instead would be getting the 90 degree entry door. Forgive me if this has already been posted, but when I talked about it a month ago no one seemed to know about this door.

It opens a little over 90 degrees (more than the pictures show) and has a hydraulic cylinder at the bottom to dampen the opening/closing. The door opens at a nice pace and stays open until closed. It seemed awkward at first, but after three weeks we really like it. No stiff door like the friction doors and don't have to clip it open like the old fashioned free swinging doors. Of course the jury is out long term, but it's the best door we've had on a camper so far.

When we get home in December I'll post more about the various build features we chose and how they worked out.

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Old 11-16-2018, 12:25 AM   #2
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Thanks for the update...
I am not sure I would like this as we keep the door open as much as possible and I consider this more awkward than open.
Looks like you have drip rails over the windows as well.
Enjoy your new trailer and trip...looking forward to your updates later.
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Old 11-16-2018, 06:40 AM   #3
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I know we all have different taste but I agree I like the door to open all the way. I also wonders what happens if you lose your balance entering or exiting the trailer and fall into the door what would happen?
We have the 1st generation and would say only thing we miss is the pass through in the screen door that we had in our Casita.
Enjoy your maiden journey and look forward to hearing more.

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Old 11-16-2018, 07:31 AM   #4
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I know we all have different taste but I agree I like the door to open all the way. I also wonders what happens if you lose your balance entering or exiting the trailer and fall into the door what would happen?
We have the 1st generation and would say only thing we miss is the pass through in the screen door that we had in our Casita.
Enjoy your maiden journey and look forward to hearing more.
That was one of my first concerns when we saw the 90 degree door.

The door is robust enough not to bend or break if someone were to lose their balance. I actually don't want to think what would happen if I lost my balance and didn't have a door to help guide me half the time. I believe this provides safety in a balance situation.

Fifteen years ago Terry lost her balance stepping out our previous 5th wheel with too small steps, like Escape, Scamp, Casita have, and fell. She didn't break anything, but now in her 60's, who knows what would happen. When losing balance leaving the camper we tend to fall forward and the door would provide a guide 50% of the time.

Because of that fall we purchased a large adjustable step and have used it on all our campers since then. We feel much safer with that step there before we reach the ground. The other day we had to raise the door side to level the trailer. If we only had the Escape provided step the final step to the ground would be much to high for safety. I find that much more of a concern than the 90 degree door, but I see many campers not have a adjustable step in that situation.

The door is also constructed so you can remove the hydraulic cylinder and have a conventional door that you could lock in place if you installed the locking mechanism on the door and side of the camper. I do know of one friction door that has loosened and no longer works as a friction door.

It will be interesting to hear other's opinions who actually have used the door for some time, and also Rease's reason for the door change.

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Old 11-16-2018, 07:46 AM   #5
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Thanks for the update...
I am not sure I would like this as we keep the door open as much as possible and I consider this more awkward than open.
Looks like you have drip rails over the windows as well.
Enjoy your new trailer and trip...looking forward to your updates later.
If you get the frameless window option, Escape installs the drip rails, framed windows do not have this accessory.
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:15 AM   #6
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First I've heard of this door. Not sure how we will like it on our soon to be built 5.0TA. We often like to have the front door open and screen door closed, seems like this will restrict the view out the front door quite a bit. Sure seems like it would catch a lot of wind when it's open 90 degrees in a breeze. This wouldn't be the first "new thing" that my initial reaction has been negative to and then upon using it I found that it was just fine, so I'll reserve judgement until we've used it.
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:25 AM   #7
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First I've heard of this door. Not sure how we will like it on our soon to be built 5.0TA. We often like to have the front door open and screen door closed, seems like this will restrict the view out the front door quite a bit. Sure seems like it would catch a lot of wind when it's open 90 degrees in a breeze.
The open door with closed screen offers plenty of view and yet it stops people walking by from looking in your camper giving you more privacy.

We usually have the door open in a breeze and have done this on our maiden voyage, but on our older campers had it closed in heavy gusts anyway, so time will tell if this is a problem.

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Old 11-16-2018, 08:43 AM   #8
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We saw this new door and strut combination on our visit to ETI in October. It’s their new solution to the friction door. Their explanation was that the original door with the latch to hold it open had complaints from owners so they went to the friction door. Complaints again. The new frictionless door and strut is their latest solution. I have my doubts as well since it only opens 90 degrees. We like the door wide open when possible. I am thinking the strut can easily be removed if we don’t like it and I can install a retainer on the door and trailer if necessary.

Like others, I’d like to hear what other owners experience is before we pick up our new 5.0 next summer.
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:54 AM   #9
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We saw this new door and strut combination on our visit to ETI in October. It’s their new solution to the friction door. Their explanation was that the original door with the latch to hold it open had complaints from owners so they went to the friction door. Complaints again. The new frictionless door and strut is their latest solution.
I wonder if this door was on display when we were at ETI in late September and we just didn't notice it? I guess there's no pleasing everyone....however, what I see is another example of ETI continually making changes to their product in response to customer feedback - how many RV manufacturers do that?
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:59 AM   #10
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I have now had both, the "friction" door and the"90 degree" door. I much prefer the friction door. I would like the door to open all the way, but my biggest concern is the screen door. It doesn't go all the way to the threshold. it stops a couple of inches short to allow for the opening cylinder. There is a brush like material to try and cover the opening, but it doesn't work very well, it gets bent sideways leaving holes for bugs to come through. I don't consider the 90 degree door a step forward in the evolution of Escape trailers. It will be interesting to see what the creative minds on this forum come up with for a fix.
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