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11-23-2018, 04:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: NA, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
If you analyze other power awnings, those with the scissors along the walls can be tilted somewhat as can the manual with the arms. The Escape model has no arms, no scissors, nothing to obstruct the view of the trailer. Tilting was a tradeoff for the nice set up. If you want tilt, get the manual with arms
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Non sense, The 9500 cassette awning can be adjusted up to 15 degrees. The reason it can not be adjusted on the 17,19 or 21 is because of the slot in the mold on 2nd gen. trailers. This is not the case on the 5.0 ,I adjusted mine to 6% slope no problems at all with rain.
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11-23-2018, 06:00 PM
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#42
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Nanaimo Vancouver Island, British Columbia
Trailer: 2015 17b "Shelly"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin
Non sense, The 9500 cassette awning can be adjusted up to 15 degrees. The reason it can not be adjusted on the 17,19 or 21 is because of the slot in the mold on 2nd gen. trailers. This is not the case on the 5.0 ,I adjusted mine to 6% slope no problems at all with rain.
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It's only nonsense for 1 of every 4 trailers produced.
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11-23-2018, 07:00 PM
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#43
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin
... The 9500 cassette awning can be adjusted up to 15 degrees.
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I adjusted mine to 6% slope no problems at all with rain.
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Yes, it is always sloped and the slope can be adjusted. When people say that they can't tilt it I think they mean that they can't set one side substantially lower when desired (such as to drain water off of one side, or to block a low sun angle), and that the tilt can't be readily (quickly, easily, without tools) adjusted.
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11-23-2018, 08:11 PM
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#44
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: NA, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunrisetrucker
It's only nonsense for 1 of every 4 trailers produced.
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True that.
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11-23-2018, 08:53 PM
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#45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
Yes, it is always sloped and the slope can be adjusted. When people say that they can't tilt it I think they mean that they can't set one side substantially lower when desired (such as to drain water off of one side, or to block a low sun angle), and that the tilt can't be readily (quickly, easily, without tools) adjusted.
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Brian if you look at many of the 2nd gen awnings when fully deployed they are not set to the factory 5% slope but are fairly strait, this is do to the slot in the mold ( this is what I was told at orientation ) Mine was strait out at orientation, thankfully Nigel overheard the conversation and with the help of his partner adjusted it slightly down . I adjusted it a wee bit more latter, I also have it tilted slightly away from the door but may not be noticeable in the picture.
As far as functionality sloping,tilting and blocking low angle sun easily, you are correct theirs no beating a manual awning but ETI did not offer one at the time.
All I can do is improvise and enjoy camping.
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11-23-2018, 09:12 PM
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#46
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Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
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As to tilting the manual awning to block the sun, you can tilt it substantially, and still not beat mother nature.
I pulled in to Osoyoos site and spent a lot of time trying to jockey my 17B so that the trailer itself would block the afternoon sun. I was trying to back it around the picnic table, but still be able to connect to power and water. After a while, fellow campers came over to help me back my trailer, thinking I hadn't a clue what I was doing.
I finally gave up and parked it where I could connect to services.
With the awning tilted and sloped, the only point of refuge was a small shadow at the back end of the trailer.
Best solution is curtains that hang from the awning, but that can also be an issue with the power awning.
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11-24-2018, 09:44 AM
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#47
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Tucson, AZ, Arizona
Trailer: gone, 19 and 21 & 17B with 5.0 now. gone
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magic awning
I like the new push button model and we are working on curtains that are light weight and with the right clips the curtain might just pop loose if the magic awning comes in by itself.
Jack
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11-24-2018, 10:49 AM
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#48
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azjack
I like the new push button model and we are working on curtains that are light weight and with the right clips the curtain might just pop loose if the magic awning comes in by itself.
Jack
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But if they don't "pop loose" it could get expensive!
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11-24-2018, 10:58 AM
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#49
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Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilye
But if they don't "pop loose" it could get expensive!
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And, any gust of wind might pop them when you don't want them to pop.
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11-24-2018, 11:36 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
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Sun shades
Finesse is the name of the game. If anybody can do it, Jack can. They make ice fishing monofilament in 1/2 lb increments.
Iowa Dave
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11-24-2018, 12:05 PM
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#51
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilye
I go along with the few naysayers - my whole use for an awning is to provide shade & keep light rain out. If you can't tilt the awning, there will be lots of times the sun will creep in under the awning. Even light rain will pool in the center of the awning, requiring action on the part of the user to keep it from forming a pool.
When I bought my 21, there wasn't a choice; the electric was all that was available. I had an armed, tillable awning on the 17, and preferred it.
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Now that they have the manual option, Jon, any plans to swap it out?
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11-24-2018, 12:24 PM
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#52
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Senior Member
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Location: Oswego, New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg A
Now that they have the manual option, Jon, any plans to swap it out?
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If I get back to Chilliwack, and it is a possible modification, yes.
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11-24-2018, 02:00 PM
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#53
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Tucson, AZ, Arizona
Trailer: gone, 19 and 21 & 17B with 5.0 now. gone
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awning
Dave, you give a new direction. I used to use the monofilament line when I was a member of the ice holers in Utah. A hole saw, a barbque, some anti-freeze and we were set. Thanks, Jack
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11-24-2018, 03:40 PM
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#54
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Senior Member
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Ideas
I have to think outside of the box to keep up with the kids. Here two of my boys with coach Rita. they are scheming on how to beat Michigan. You go downfield on a crossing route and I’ll hit you on the 14. Take it in from there. Go Bucks
Iowa Dave
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11-24-2018, 06:29 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
I have to think outside of the box to keep up with the kids. Here two of my boys with coach Rita. they are scheming on how to beat Michigan. You go downfield on a crossing route and I’ll hit you on the 14. Take it in from there. Go Bucks
Iowa Dave
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Those crossing patterns worked pretty good today! My goodness, MIchigan didn’t have a chance!
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11-28-2018, 10:47 AM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Clinton Township, Michigan
Trailer: Escape 19 2018
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Painters pole and PVC pipe, looks like a great solution
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11-28-2018, 11:15 AM
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#57
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Placerville, California
Trailer: 2015 escape 21
Posts: 46
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Auto retraction wins with me!
Quote:
Originally Posted by sclifrickson
I also am a function over form kind of guy, and completely disagree that electric wins only on aesthetics. It also wins on ease of deployment, ease of redeployment, which means I, for one, use it all the time, instead of only some of the time, as I did with my Carefree Fiesta. The electric also wins for having a fully contained cassette that keeps the awning dry when driving down the road in the rain, and for having a wind sensor that autoretracts if you leave your awning deployed while down at the beach when the wind comes up.
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Listening to you all screams for me to get one. I have a 21 and just three weeks ago in Moab we woke up at three with gusts and had to get our manual closed up! Of course I probably should have been more on top of the wind but we lazy retirees .... if I ever have to replace, I’m going to look at power!
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11-28-2018, 11:29 AM
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#58
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Milpitas, California
Trailer: 2017 19'
Posts: 347
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We are not awning people - have a manual style awning for the FJ for a few years, only deployed it a couple times... have the electric type on our 19' for a little over a year now and only deployed it twice so far... (out of 30 some camping days) , a couple of times we would deploy it and decided it's not necessary or not useful and put it back.. I think the electric one made it easier to deploy and put back, and for people like us who don't use awning that often, kept the awning out of the elements.
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11-28-2018, 04:56 PM
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#59
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Asheville, North Carolina
Trailer: 2017 19' Escape "Cattyshack"
Posts: 62
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We've had the new 2017 model for over a year and are happy with the electric awning (and everything else including the new style windows). We've used it in the rain a couple times and as others stated only extend it maybe 1/2. We didn't have big water issues, but they weren't huge downpours either. As for cleaning leaves off, I have a rechargeable blower and a step stool I always carry. It's easy to blow off debris before we close it. It we have to close it wet, we open it at home ad make sure it dries out. True for any type of awning I would think.
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11-30-2018, 12:24 PM
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#60
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Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Pacific Northwest, Washington
Trailer: 17A
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Escape didn't have a choice on the awning when I ordered my 17A that I picked up on July 30th. I find it useless because I can't change the angle. I've been afraid to use it in the rain but the comment from some of the others will help me with that. If I had a choice I'd go with manual. I used the awning on my Scamp all the time. This one stays in its holder all the time.
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