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Old 07-02-2016, 11:42 AM   #71
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In some States you could reserve campsites and cancel ,then get your reservation fee or partial fee back .Where we are you pay a $10 reservation fee and if you cancel , you loose your reservation fee and pay a cancellation fee plus if you cancel without 48 hours notice you also pay one nights camping fee. You can blame government but a lot of the fault lies with us. Under the old system people were booking multiple prime campsites for holiday weekends at a popular Wisconsin State Parks and then selling the campsites for profit on Craig's list. If they couldn't sell them all they just cancelled the remaining sites and got a refund . "SCALPING CAMPSITES"
Others were reserving sites for multiple weekends at multiple parks and then cancelling which ones they didn't want at no cost to them. This practice tied up campsites so that others could not use them and caused sites to sit vacant costing the park revenue
It's easy to blame some government agency but they are only reacting to the abuses of the general public.
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Old 07-02-2016, 12:12 PM   #72
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Provincial campgrounds have a clever rip-off in place. Securing a campground in some provincial parks is very difficult, but the user still has to wade through an archaic system to anchor a camp site. A new system is apparently on deck for the future. In the meantime a $6.00 per day reservation fee is added, on top of daily rates, to the campers confirmation. This reservation fee is non refundable if plans change. So, in essence, we are being charged for doing all the work! In some ways it's similar to Ticket Masters ripoff fees with one difference. A concert ticket can be scalped, a camping reservation no longer can.
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Porteau Cove, a BC Provincial Park, has no first come first served sites so a camper is forced to pay a reservation fee as well as a camp fee to stay there. Once again, the reservation fee is lost if plans change...even if 2 months notice is given.
That is a rip-off!
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When we we pulled in a day early at Custer State Park, we had to call ReserveAmerica to get one of the open sites for the one night, and pay the reservation fee for the one night. There is/was no way to pay at the campground. Seemed kind of asinine.
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Old 07-02-2016, 01:05 PM   #74
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I think the best solution to all of the issues mentioned in this thread is to eliminate reservations and make all public camping, first come first served. I for one don't need or want reserve America or whatever the reservation organization calls itself. Now, having said that, I know it will never happen. Folks are too insecure to allow the possibility that their favorite spot won't be available when they arrive.
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More to this point:
Porteau Cove, a BC Provincial Park, has no first come first served sites so a camper is forced to pay a reservation fee as well as a camp fee to stay there.
" Once again, the reservation fee is lost if plans change...even if 2 months notice is given.
That is a rip-off!
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Why is that a RIPOFF ? You paid for a reservation and you received a reservation . You decided to cancel the reservation , they did not.
If you showed up and they gave away your reserved site then I could see them returning your reservation fee . There are costs to running the reservation system , so if they returned your reservation fee then you get something for nothing. You 'll get no sympathy from me. If you make a reservation and then change your mind then you pay the price for changing your mind.
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I think the best solution to all of the issues mentioned in this thread is to eliminate reservations and make all public camping, first come first served. I for one don't need or want reserve America or whatever the reservation organization calls itself. Now, having said that, I know it will never happen. Folks are too insecure to allow the possibility that their favorite spot won't be available when they arrive.
This is the way AZ parks were 3-4 years ago. You had to rip the kids out of school at the pickup line on Friday and race to the mountains to have a chance at a spot in the campground. If they were full had to try the next one and sometimes you would have to drive back home very discouraged. Now you know you have a campsite and you can go up at your leisure on Friday. Way better system than no reservation capabilities as it was before. I think the bigger problem is that there are just getting to be too many dang RV people fighting for limited space now.
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I'd have no problem if private companies booked blocks of sites at private campgrounds but not at our provincial CG.
I couldn't agree more Larry. Those parks are part of your national heritage - and as Canadians, you should get the priority to enjoy them. They don't "belong" to the government, but to you.
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Why is that a RIPOFF ? You paid for a reservation and you received a reservation . You decided to cancel the reservation , they did not.
If you showed up and they gave away your reserved site then I could see them returning your reservation fee . There are costs to running the reservation system , so if they returned your reservation fee then you get something for nothing. You 'll get no sympathy from me. If you make a reservation and then change your mind then you pay the price for changing your mind.
I guess I believe that a reservation for an airline is free as is a court at a tennis club, not to mention restaurants, car rentals and so on. These reservations are free to cancel. My camp ground reservation is done by me for me and if canceled it is canceled by me all by my computer. At Porteau Cove the only way to stay there is by paying a reservation fee because they haven't got first come first served sites!

If I bought an item and then changed my mind about it, I could return it.
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If I bought an item and then changed my mind about it, I could return it.
I agree with you about paying to reserve = ripoff when a CG has nothing but reservable sites. However, once you've bought something you can't return it merely because you've changed your mind. The seller may let you do so but depending on the wording of the contract you are stuck with the item.
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I guess I believe that a reservation for an airline is free as is a court at a tennis club, not to mention restaurants, car rentals and so on. These reservations are free to cancel. My camp ground reservation is done by me for me and if canceled it is canceled by me all by my computer. At Porteau Cove the only way to stay there is by paying a reservation fee because they haven't got first come first served sites!

If I bought an item and then changed my mind about it, I could return it.
Airlines restaurants ,rental cars are for profit companies and are free to do what they wish . Public parks are funded by taxes and user fees . If you don't like their reservation fees or policy then go to a private campgrounds . I don't want to pay more for my reservation fees so you can have the luxury of cancelling your reservation for no reason and at no cost.to you.
Let's just agree to disagree you can go on [moderator edit] and I will go on mine, camping
In Wisconsin you would pay a $9.65 reservation fee and if you cancel a $5.00 cancellation fee . Neither is refundable.
It's the price of doing business !!
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