BC's Provincial Camp Grounds Rip-off - Escape Trailer Owners Community

Go Back   Escape Trailer Owners Community > Escape Me | General Topics > General Escape
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-29-2016, 12:36 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
J Mac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2008 Escape 17b
Posts: 1,772
BC's Provincial Camp Grounds Rip-off

Provincial campgrounds have a clever rip-off in place. Securing a campground in some provincial parks is very difficult, but the user still has to wade through an archaic system to anchor a camp site. A new system is apparently on deck for the future. In the meantime a $6.00 per day reservation fee is added, on top of daily rates, to the campers confirmation. This reservation fee is non refundable if plans change. So, in essence, we are being charged for doing all the work! In some ways it's similar to Ticket Masters ripoff fees with one difference. A concert ticket can be scalped, a camping reservation no longer can.
__________________

J Mac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2016, 12:53 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Greg A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19 "Seventy Degrees"
Posts: 1,488
We call that "hidden taxation" in the states. A number of states have no income tax, and it sounds good on the surface until you evaluate the "hidden taxes." I.E property taxes, vehicle fees, park fees, etc, etc, etc.
__________________

Greg A is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2016, 01:02 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
J Mac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2008 Escape 17b
Posts: 1,772
BTW BC Gonernment has the same rip off in place with reservations on BC Ferries. Change of plans means a loss of reservation fees. Reservations are non-transferable!!
J Mac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2016, 01:09 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
gbaglo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B - "Toad". '08 Toyota RAV4 V6
Posts: 9,217
Remember the 'good old days' when BC Provincial Parks had free firewood?
Of course some campers had to try to burn it all and parks were smothered in wet wood smoke.
Nope, I don't miss that at all.
__________________
2009 Escape 17B "Toad"
2008 Toyota RAV4 V6 Sport
North Vancouver, British Columbia

What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
- Bertolt Brecht
gbaglo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2016, 01:15 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
KarenH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Bellingham, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 15A
Posts: 1,549
Send a message via Skype™ to KarenH
Yes, we have the same situation with ferry and camping reservations. Washington State park fees have increased tremendously in the last several years. A park ranger recently told me that the state park system is under a mandate to become more self-supporting as funds are shifted elsewhere. Whereas I'm a staunch supporter of user fees, I do think it's a shame in this case as our park system has priced itself out of range for many, many people. I believe it's the one recreational outlet all residents should be able to enjoy.

Edited: Reading Glenn's post reminded me not only of the free firewood but of the times before leash rules were in effect and most male dogs were not neutered. Dog fights were de rigueur in campgrounds in those days.
__________________
Karen Hulford
2013 Escape 15A, "Egbert"
Ford 150 XLT 5.8L
Bellingham, Washington
KarenH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2016, 02:23 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
blhvet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Myrnam, Alberta
Trailer: 2005 Aliner, 17B due in April/17
Posts: 212
The reservation fee for Alberta Privincial Parks is $12/reservation. Not bad if you're booking several days, but it makes it awfully expensive if you're only there for one night. And there are fewer and fewer parks with first come, first serve sites. I'm trying to make peace with it... ��
blhvet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2016, 02:26 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
padlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: 5.0 TA #6, 2012 F150 EB
Posts: 2,918
Same deal as ReserveAmerica down here, except there is one reservation fee per reservation, verses your per night.
__________________
Happy Motoring
Bob
padlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2016, 03:03 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Vancouver Island, British Columbia
Trailer: 2012 Escape 17B, 2011 Ranger FX4
Posts: 148
I wrote a letter to BC Parks after our last experience, suggesting their reservation policy is flawed. No response yet (probably never!).

Reservation fee applies for the first 3 nights of a stay, so if you're reserving 7 nights, you get nights 4 - 7 without the fee -- unless you have to book multiple campsites in the same campground because any one campsite isn't available for the contiguous block of 7 nights. Every time you move, even within the same campground, even on contiguous days, its a new reservation and the 3-day-clock starts anew.

OK, whine/snivel off now. Porteau Cove is still a nice place to camp (if you can get in)!

A bigger problem, in my opinion, is that some parks -- including Porteau Cove -- are now 100% reservation-only, and have zero sites set aside for first-come first-serve campers.
__________________
Lotar & Wendy
"Sit loosely in the saddle of life" (Robert Louis Stevenson)
maurerl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2016, 03:07 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Vancouver Island, British Columbia
Trailer: 2012 Escape 17B, 2011 Ranger FX4
Posts: 148
Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo View Post
Remember the 'good old days' when BC Provincial Parks had free firewood?
They still do -- but I hear the penalties for being caught cutting it are pretty severe!
__________________
Lotar & Wendy
"Sit loosely in the saddle of life" (Robert Louis Stevenson)
maurerl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2016, 03:09 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Eastern Iowa, Iowa
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 1,373
Fees

The nightmare we call government these days is largely run by folks with administrative training but very little field experience. In addition, departments which do not actually produce product cost money to operate also do not generate revenue. The result is to use tax money to run IT, Accounting, Human Resources, and other non revenue producering departments. Then top level decision makers make the producers, water works, parks, recreation, libraries, solid waste, etc, try to make operational costs by raising revenue. Along with this comes reservation fees, higher fees, non resident fees, dog camper fees, and on and on. Solutions : boondock. disperse camp, senior pass, season passes, camp host, shoulder season reduced rates, Sunday thru Thursday outings, no holidays, they're a nightmare anyhow. etc.
I feel your pain.
Dave
__________________

Iowa Dave is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off






» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.