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Old 08-31-2017, 10:29 PM   #21
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I will most certainly agree with camping style changes over time. That's what makes completing the Build Sheet such a challenge. I know what our camping style is now, but have a hard time anticipating where it will morph to in the future. Guess we just do our best and then hope for the best!
This is exactly the problem. Every single one of us knows how we've camped in the past..but no one knows our future. IF I did, I'd share the next lottery winning numbers with you.

SO, it's time to just dream... and think "what if," How would I deal with "X" if the trailer (or me) wasn't prepared... and now that I have the option to "prepare," what does that look like?

There's some very serious weather events happening in the US right now. Don't you wonder about those folks that bought trailers (of any brand) without bathrooms or freshwater tanks and now they're using their trailers as "bug out." THAT doesn't mean you should always think about disaster.. but it kinda makes me go hummmmm.
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Old 08-31-2017, 10:43 PM   #22
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Exactly, Donna!
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Old 08-31-2017, 11:06 PM   #23
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Since I live on the Gulf Coast, I most definitely had evacuation in mind when I bought my trailer. I have also used it as a "lifeboat" whenever I've done something to make my house temporarily uninhabitable, which usually involves the plumbing. I'm not a good plumber.
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Old 09-01-2017, 04:34 AM   #24
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I will most certainly agree with camping style changes over time. That's what makes completing the Build Sheet such a challenge. I know what our camping style is now, but have a hard time anticipating where it will morph to in the future. Guess we just do our best and then hope for the best!
In my opinion (for what it is worth ), I think folks stress out too much over the build sheet. The key thing is to just get out and enjoy, and a basic Escape trailer will get you there.

Yes, there are things that work best for each individual, making things a bit easier, or in some cases just that nice luxury that gives you pride in your trailer. As you can see from past threads this varies a heck of a lot from person to person. Lordy knows I have incorporated many of these that I consider "luxury" things.

And almost anything can be added later, albeit in most cases with a bit more effort and even cost. These things can be done as you realize things that would suit your style better. Heck, for me Escape did not even offer many of the things we desired, so I just did them myself, though I do realize many would need to hire some kinds of work done.
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Old 09-01-2017, 10:47 AM   #25
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There's some very serious weather events happening in the US right now. Don't you wonder about those folks that bought trailers (of any brand) without bathrooms or freshwater tanks and now they're using their trailers as "bug out." THAT doesn't mean you should always think about disaster.. but it kinda makes me go hummmmm.
That made me think- for a minute. But no, doesn't worry me at all. I guess it may depend on the type of disaster, but where I live the odds are either earthquake or tsunami or tidal flood. If I'm away from home long enough to need to worry about dumping a portapotti, that's still easier than trying to find a dump station for a black water tank. Carrying fresh water is no bigger problem just because it isn't in a tank, and it is more versatile if it isn't as it can go places I might not be able to get to in my trailer after an earthquake. For short-term events like tsunami or tidal flood I'm back in a few days (and if not, your holding tank isn't going to last long, either). Plus everyone at higher ground has facilities and hopefully water. And we're both going to run out of gas to go anywhere pretty quickly.
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Old 09-01-2017, 11:14 AM   #26
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It is comforting to have a RV for us . After the 1994 earthquake because the house was in bad shape including needing foundation work ( home was moving toward neighbor ) . We were lucky to have a 22 ft Class C . We lived in it for 6 mo in the driveway until house was almost back together . It is our security . Have always had some kind of RV . Wouldn't feel comfortable having to go somewhere else . Pat
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Old 09-01-2017, 05:43 PM   #27
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I Installed the outside shower as far to the rear as possible, and at a height I thought would work good. I then bought a Flexible Gooseneck Spout that has a quick connect that just plugs in. We are very happy with the results of doing this.



As a bonus in this shot, you can see a bit of our cookhouse at our land, and a couple sporting activities for those wanting to join us some time, boccee and a trampoline.
I thought this spout looked great so I ordered one from etrailer.com. They want $25.64 for spout plus $11.27 shipping / total = $36.91 (to Alaska)
Ordered Thursday 8/31

etrailer.com called me this am 9/1: "They won't have product until mid September". Translate: Who knows when

Tried Amazon and they have never heard of such a product

Its made by Phoenix and has a product number: SK-Flexspout
etrailer.com has a product number: PF247011

Can't locate anywhere else so guess will have to wait to hear from etrailer.com. I have a bit of a bad taste in my mouth from etrailer.com. A year ago I wanted some Firestone leaf spring air bags to fit my '09 Tacoma and ordered from etrailer.com. They emailed me back to say they were shipping the following week. OK great! .... except they never came. Waited a reasonable amount of time for shipping and then I called them. "Oh No, they are back ordered and we won't get any for at least 4 months ....well .... actually, we really don't know when so we aren't taking any new orders." Grrrrrr!

I flew down to WA state where my trailer is stored and while my Tacoma was having a rear leaf spring recall installation - free (HUGE improvement!!), I walked across the street and NAPA had them in stock and passed them across the counter to me. Sigh ....
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Old 09-01-2017, 06:08 PM   #28
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Tom, try D&W Incorporated. They have the flexspout, as well as qc water fittings.

https://www.dwincorp.com/product/the-flexspout/
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Old 09-01-2017, 06:31 PM   #29
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After three years and three long trips we're still figuring out storage and hook placement. I keep changing things around and of course we brought too much stuff. But the truth is we have used just about everything we brought. Nevertheless, I intend to streamline things next time.
Great post and oh, so true! We have several camping styles which continue to morph. When camping, it is a different life than when we travel for extended periods of time. When traveling, we have varied temperature ranges, depending on the time of year . Our most recent trip the temperatures increased by 60 degrees in the high desert! We bring all weather clothes, and I found that there is empty space behind the water tanks to store hearty winter clothing in a duffle bag.

Yep, we always bring too much (and like you said, we use everything we bring). I enjoy this forum as I have learned about and implemented so many storage ideas that I have lost count. This continues to be a work in progress. Keep the ideas coming my fellow Escapees!

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Old 09-01-2017, 07:11 PM   #30
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We are bringing the trailer back to NJ (last year it was stored in the Finger Lakes) and I've been thinking that if we ever have another storm like Sandy it will be good to have our trailer with its solar panel and frig that runs on propane. Of course that was never on my mind when we ordered it. And I really do like to be outside when I wash dishes or cook, but some campgrounds just don't lend themselves to it. When there is a camper sink (or it's okay to dump gray water on the ground) that makes a huge difference. And when we can leave food related implements outside from meal to meal that also makes a difference. When I was considering the shower during the build sheet time I never thought about using it to wash dishes. And costs were adding up. However, first chance we have, we're going to install one.

The other huge change with the Escape is that it's only Terry and me. When we had our 30' Airstream there were five children underfoot and cooking inside was so claustrophobic. Now Terry sits at the table or outside when I cook inside and meals are so much simpler with just two so cooking inside is not such a big deal, especially when I'm just making the starch and vegetable and he is grilling outside.
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