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04-25-2016, 11:13 AM
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I'm someone who advocates for no politics here but climate change is science not politics. As Glenn says it only becomes political if one chooses to deny science. One of the very positive aspects of our fiberglass eggs is their light weight which transfers into less energy consumption towing them
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04-25-2016, 11:15 AM
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And, if you go through the archives you will find thousands of posts discussing solar and generators.
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04-25-2016, 11:37 AM
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I don't dispute global warming, it's the carbon credit idea that bugs me.
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04-25-2016, 11:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
I don't dispute global warming, it's the carbon credit idea that bugs me.
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Does it bug you if the credit is used to reduce the cost of solar panels for your trailer?
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What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
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04-25-2016, 11:46 AM
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Me too....
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Originally Posted by Ron in BC
Don't get me going on carbon taxes and carbon offsets. If I said what I think of them I'd be banned for life.
Ron
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04-25-2016, 11:49 AM
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I'm surprised that you would have anything to offer on that post either, since you got the Cabana boy option
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Originally Posted by Donna D.
I'd have more to offer if the title was Cleaning RV instead of Clean RVing
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04-25-2016, 11:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GregandTeresa
I'm surprised that you would have anything to offer on that post either, since you got the Cabana boy option
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Yeah there is that!
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04-25-2016, 12:09 PM
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Clean RVing...
Hi: All... No mater how much you scrub... the black streaks will re appear and you can tow a tug to water... but you can't make it drink. LoL Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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04-25-2016, 12:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
We are not going to turn this thread in to a political stage. Okay?
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Lets get back to the less political stage that loves to headline, "the packing, storage and cross border transport, of fire-arms and weapons in our trailers".
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04-25-2016, 12:24 PM
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All right, now you're talking. Handguns or long guns?
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Originally Posted by J Mac
Lets get back to the less political stage that loves to headline, "the packing, storage and cross border transport, of fire-arms and weapons in our trailers".
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04-25-2016, 12:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GregandTeresa
All right, now you're talking. Handguns or long guns?
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But no grenades, an inactive one closed down the Sumas border crossing for a few hours last week. Doesn't every family go travelling across international borders with a grenade
Ron
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04-25-2016, 12:51 PM
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Climate change is science. Tow vehicle alternatives are relevant to towing travel trailers. Carbon credits and carbon-based taxation schemes are not science, and seem to me to be politics rather than particularly relevant to travel trailers.
At the very least, this appears to be a subject to discuss around the Cyber Campfire (or a real one), as it is not about Escape even in General.
Camels
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Originally Posted by Vermilye
Well they were in Quartzsite, AZ in the 1850's.
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After that, they went to California and then the Cariboo region of British Columbia for the gold rushes. A major centre of the Cariboo gold rush was Barkerville, which still exists as a historic attraction and good stop for people exploring interior B.C. with RVs... but it doesn't have any camels any more.
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04-25-2016, 12:57 PM
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From Wiki:
Around 3–5 million years ago, the North American Camelidae spread to South America via the Isthmus of Panama, where they gave rise to guanacos and related animals, and to Asia via the Bering land bridge. [13][50][51] Surprising finds of fossil Paracamelus on Ellesmere Island beginning in 2006 in the high Canadian Arctic indicate the dromedary is descended from a larger, boreal browser whose hump may have evolved as an adaptation in a cold climate. [56][57] This creature is estimated to have stood around nine feet tall. [58] The last camel native to North America was Camelops hesternus, which vanished along with horses, short-faced bears, mammoths and mastodons, ground sloths, sabertooth cats, and many other megafauna, coinciding with the migration of humans from Asia. [59][60]
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04-25-2016, 01:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilye
Well they were in Quartzsite, AZ in the 1850's. An experiment that didn't work, but the Hi Jolly Monument is an interesting visit when looking for things to do during a long winter in the desert.
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And a great song from the New Christy Minstrels came from that story:
HI JOLLY, THE CAMEL DRIVER - Lyrics - International Lyrics Playground
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04-25-2016, 02:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
We are not going to turn this thread in to a political stage. Okay?
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Ok. Now, kill the thread. You're empowered.
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04-25-2016, 02:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
From Wiki:
Around 3–5 million years ago, the North American Camelidae spread to South America via the Isthmus of Panama, where they gave rise to guanacos and related animals, and to Asia via the Bering land bridge....
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I had read that long ago, but forgotten about it. Horses have a similar story (again from Wikipedia):
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The genus Equus, which includes all extant equines, is believed to have evolved from Dinohippus, via the intermediate form Plesippus. One of the oldest species is Equus simplicidens, described as zebra-like with a donkey-shaped head. The oldest fossil to date is ~3.5 million years old from Idaho, USA. The genus appears to have spread quickly into the Old World...
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Digs in western Canada have unearthed clear evidence horses existed in North America until about 12,000 years ago. However, all Equidae in North America ultimately became extinct...
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So there was a lot of stuff here that didn't make it to modern times... so we had to bring them back from other parts of the world.
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04-25-2016, 03:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Remember a couple of things:
Let it Go
Walk On By
No member needs to read every single post or feel compelled to reply to every single post. Sometimes the best action is to step away from the keyboard...
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Ok I'm gonna say this is the best post I've seen in weeks. I'll take it to heart.
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04-25-2016, 07:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
From Wiki:
Around 3–5 million years ago, the North American Camelidae spread to South America via the Isthmus of Panama, where they gave rise to guanacos and related animals, and to Asia via the Bering land bridge. [13][50][51] Surprising finds of fossil Paracamelus on Ellesmere Island beginning in 2006 in the high Canadian Arctic indicate the dromedary is descended from a larger, boreal browser whose hump may have evolved as an adaptation in a cold climate. [56][57] This creature is estimated to have stood around nine feet tall. [58] The last camel native to North America was Camelops hesternus, which vanished along with horses, short-faced bears, mammoths and mastodons, ground sloths, sabertooth cats, and many other megafauna, coinciding with the migration of humans from Asia. [59][60]
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Tell us the story of the Camel filter.
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04-25-2016, 07:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J Mac
Tell us the story of the Camel filter.
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Joe Cool!
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04-25-2016, 07:53 PM
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My dad used to send me up to the corner store for unfiltered Camels every day. I still like the smell of someone lighting one.
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