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09-03-2019, 09:41 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Placerville, California
Trailer: 2018 Escape 17A double dinette
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endorice, my opening measures maybe 1/16 shy of 14. the interior width is more than that, of course.mine is about 41 inches high. i don't slide the top drawer at all, just use it as a bin for jackets.
I assembled the frame without the top cross bars front and back, slightly angled the rest, and could pull the two sides just a tiny bit inward to get that part in. then i tapped on the two top cross bars. if you like, you can private message me and i will give you a lot of tips on how to deal with the bottom lip, and stabilize the whole thing inside the cabinet. the drawers are available in three depths...i used small and medium.
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09-03-2019, 09:47 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,023
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Quote:
Originally Posted by h2owmn
endorice, my opening measures maybe 1/16 shy of 14. the interior width is more than that, of course.mine is about 41 inches high. i don't slide the top drawer at all, just use it as a bin for jackets.
I assembled the frame without the top cross bars front and back, slightly angled the rest, and could pull the two sides just a tiny bit inward to get that part in. then i tapped on the two top cross bars. if you like, you can private message me and i will give you a lot of tips on how to deal with the bottom lip, and stabilize the whole thing inside the cabinet. the drawers are available in three depths...i used small and medium.
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Please post your suggestions here in this thread for the benefit of all.
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Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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09-04-2019, 02:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21'
Posts: 280
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tdf-texas
Beautiful work!
Looking at your work makes me want to do that to mine. That is the best drawer install I have seen yet.
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Thanks for your comments. This is our favorite mod!
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09-04-2019, 02:19 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 2013 19' & 2013 15B
Posts: 2,634
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ATHiker
We went with full drawers.
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Very nice!
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09-08-2019, 09:21 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Colorado, Colorado
Trailer: Owner of a 17A since April 2019
Posts: 19
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Elpha install - minor lessons learned
Sorry for the verbose posting. I’m hoping this will help someone in the future that wants to do the Elfa install in the wardrobe closet.
I have a 17A and the wardrobe drawer solution I had originally wanted to do was the same one posted by h2owmn ( Post #7) but wasn’t quite sure it would fit until I saw that posting. Here’s everything I learned doing this installation.
First, the Elfa draw frame that is 14" wide x 21" deep x 41" high fits perfectly (Elfa calls this the ‘Narrow’). If you take the two door catches off the left side of the wardrobe door opening, you can slide the assembled Elfa frame into the wardrobe opening. I thought I would have to assemble the Elfa frame inside the wardrobe closet, but that wasn’t necessary.
Then came a minor challenge. There are two black protective pipes inside the back left corner of the closet. One is really small (~ ½ inch) and the other is quite large (~ 2 inch). The larger one is apparently contains the vent pipe for the grey water tank, which is then wrapped in this black protective tubing. With that tube in the back, there isn’t the necessary 21” depth that you need for the Elfa draw frame. So – you have to push it to the front of the smaller tube, press it up against the left side of the cabinet, and slide the frame to the right side of this tube. I swapped PMs with by h2owmn (Post #7), and he didn’t have the grey water tank or the vent tube, so his install may have been easier.
The second minor challenge was the fact that the floor in the rear of the wardrobe closet really isn’t sturdy. I cut a couple pieces of wood and placed in the lower cabinet in order to provide support to the wardrobe floor.
I ripped a couple of pieces of wood to support both the bottom back of the Elfa frame, and the bottom front. Then I cut a couple of small pieces of wood to wedge between the front upper left, and the front upper right. I placed protective felt between the wood ‘wedge’ and the cabinet wall. Probably not necessary.
With all that done, the frame was very secure and sturdy. Hope this helps! Here are some pictures:
First minor challenge: Left rear of the frame with the grey water tank tube pulled forward and pressed against the left side:
Second minor challenge: reinforce the floor of the wardrobe closet:
Picture of the support created to support the bottom rear and front rear of the
Elfa frame:
Upper left support:
Upper right support:
Completed project without drawers:
With drawers:
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09-08-2019, 09:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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These drawers and shelves all look appealing, but where would I hang my shirts and jackets?
I don't fold shirts.
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09-08-2019, 10:49 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,744
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We seem to be a minority. I know that if I bought a used Escape that had shelves instead of a closet the first mod I'd do is turn it back into a closet.
Ron
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09-08-2019, 11:08 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
We seem to be a minority. I know that if I bought a used Escape that had shelves instead of a closet the first mod I'd do is turn it back into a closet.
Ron
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To pack, I grab a handful of shirts on hangers, take them to the trailer and hang them in the closet. No careful folding.
Wife found a use for boots and shoes in the closet bottom. They are perfect for holding bottles of wine, port, etc.
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09-08-2019, 11:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2012 Escape 15 A
Posts: 1,505
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All the shelving mods look very good, but we too need the actual closet for hanging shirts, pants and jackets. We've really got ample space for folded clothes. Having jackets hanging around on hook feels cluttered, just wouldn't know where to hang things without a closet.
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09-09-2019, 12:56 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
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I've found that all these organizers take up space without contents. I considered one for the cupboard where we store pots and pans, but it took up space I couldn't afford to lose.
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09-13-2019, 10:12 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Langley, British Columbia
Trailer: 2006 Escape
Posts: 14
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Hi Tom and Linda. I love your drawers in your cupboard. Did you make them or did you buy them. Thanks for your time.
Judy and Glen Langley, BC
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09-13-2019, 10:57 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Placerville, California
Trailer: 2018 Escape 17A double dinette
Posts: 1,518
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glad you were able to work it out! looks great.
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09-14-2019, 09:25 AM
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#33
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21'
Posts: 280
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy Duggan
Hi Tom and Linda. I love your drawers in your cupboard. Did you make them or did you buy them. Thanks for your time.
Judy and Glen Langley, BC
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Thanks for your comments. I ordered the drawers from Quickdrawers.
https://quikdrawers.com/index.
We have the solid birch (5/8" thick drawers with 1/4" bottoms). They came fully assembled.
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09-14-2019, 09:40 AM
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#34
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,532
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All the drawers I installed in my trailer I built with 2/8" Baltic birch sides and 1/8" BB bottoms as Chris R did. They are much lighter as boy they weight adds up otherwise.
We too love to have a rod to hang clothes in, and frankly if they were folded and on shelves they would take up just as much room. But, we all have our own ways of doing things, and none are right for everyone. I bet there are many that think my built in bar is silly too.
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09-18-2019, 10:16 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Menomonie, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21', Maple Interior, previous 2015 Escape 19'
Posts: 62
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On our 21' closet we put a false bottom with just a 3/4" lip to hold some storage containers. the compartment under the false bottom in about 4" deep and holds stuff we don't need often. The remainder of the closet is sliding drawers. My husband is very inventive and handy, so the drawers are very convenient, and serve as my pantry.
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