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Old 03-02-2015, 01:51 PM   #101
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That is a bit of a stretch to say that Americans are the only normal people in the world, wouldn't you think?

Plus, with the Fahrenheit scale such a messed up one, any reference to it as normal is a bit misguided too.
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That is a bit of a stretch to say that Americans are the only normal people in the world, wouldn't you think?
I'm an American; what gave you the idea that I could possibly be normal?

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Plus, with the Fahrenheit scale such a messed up one, any reference to it as normal is a bit misguided too.
You know, it's really quite simple. Just remember 15/50, as in 15C is 50F, a pleasant daytime temp. in Calgary.
Similarly, a pleasant day in Camarillo is 20/68, or in Palm Springs it's 40/104. Oswego at -3/26... not so much.
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Well it is now official - February was the coldest month ever in Syracuse, NY (9F average temperature). And just for those thinking of using this as proof there is no Global Warming, according to NOAA, January global temperatures were the second warmest ever (54.99F).
To put things in perspective, Salt Lake City just experienced the warmest February on record, 43.9F average temp, with only a trace of snow. 2014-2015 is the warmest winter season on record, averaging 38.3F, with 41% of days over 50F. It's also the least snowy winter, with only 6.0" all season.

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Old 03-02-2015, 02:35 PM   #104
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You know, it's really quite simple. Just remember 15/50, as in 15C is 50F, a pleasant daytime temp. in Calgary.
Similarly, a pleasant day in Camarillo is 20/68, or in Palm Springs it's 40/104. Oswego at -3/26... not so much.
Hey, don't get on my case. It was Robert who suggested you may be normal, not me?

I am good at converting, it is just that I now have to do that, and can't think in F.
I would take Oswego temps over those at Palm Springs any day. My sensors begin to fail over 30C (86F).
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Old 03-02-2015, 03:16 PM   #105
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Plus, with the Fahrenheit scale such a messed up one, any reference to it as normal is a bit misguided too.
Unfortunately the metrication effort in the U.S. was derailed decades ago (now there are only two other non-metric countries - Myanmar and Liberia, Metrication in the United States)

However, the metric system doesn't make as much sense for temperature, since Fahrenheit and Celsius are both arbitrary scales. So, shouldn't we use an absolute temperature scale like Kelvin or Rankine, where zero degrees really is zero, not an arbitrary point like the freezing point of water (Celsius) or brine (Fahrenheit)?

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Hey, don't get on my case. It was Robert who suggested you may be normal, not me?

I am good at converting, it is just that I now have to do that, and can't think in F.
I would take Oswego temps over those at Palm Springs any day. My sensors begin to fail over 30C (86F).
Here is a quick and easy way to convert C to F... Simply take the base temp in C, double that and then add 30 and you will end up very close to F temp.

so take 20C, the double it to 40 and then add 30, you end up with 70F. It is quite accurate every time.

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I use the 28 is 82. So if the temperature is above 28 I know it's hot below it is mild much below I'm gone.
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However, the metric system doesn't make as much sense for temperature, since Fahrenheit and Celsius are both arbitrary scales. So, shouldn't we use an absolute temperature scale like Kelvin or Rankine, where zero degrees really is zero, not an arbitrary point like the freezing point of water (Celsius) or brine (Fahrenheit)?
I agree that an absolute scale would be more useful in some ways, but even when using a relative scale Celsius has an advantage over Fahrenheit when doing calculations in which the other quantities are also in SI units. If you just need to know how hot it will feel when you step outside, I think whatever scale is familiar will do.
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However, the metric system doesn't make as much sense for temperature, since Fahrenheit and Celsius are both arbitrary scales. So, shouldn't we use an absolute temperature scale like Kelvin or Rankine, where zero degrees really is zero, not an arbitrary point like the freezing point of water (Celsius) or brine (Fahrenheit)?
OC is freezing, and 100C is boiling. This is a much simpler that that of 32F, and 212F for the same thing. Having used both in my life, and moving to Celsius only, I can definitely say that it is simpler to use, especially like Brian alluded to, used with other metric measurements in lots of engineering type applications.

With a lot of measurements, and Canada so being reliable on trade with the US, we still do lots of things using imperial measurements. Temperature is about the only one that is consistently metric around here.


Who freezes brine anyway?
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As an fahrenheit user I agree that Celsius is much simpler and easier to use.....0 to 100 is easy to remember.
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