?? condensation and windows

NEWYORKHILLBILLY · 10-10-2017, 02:48 PM

I was able to tour a 2017 19' with the new thermal windows last week.
The owner was very happy with the trailer but has had some condensation problem that he been trying to resolve with out luck.
He has tried all the tricks running vent at night,and running a dehumidifier .

I realize that all the fiberglass trailers get some condensation But i was wondering do these windows have drains. he was complaining of having to wipe up the bed area ever morning .I know on my casita any water that runs down the windows will drain outside and does not run down the wall , it got me thinking do the sliders in the escape have drains? do the thermals frame-less have drains? I was thinking of upgrading to the thermals, but if the standards had a better drain system i might go that way..

camping on the east cost in cold temp I think the condensation is unavoidable ,But i don't want a wet bed either..HMMM

gocamp · 10-10-2017, 03:36 PM

Have the new frameless thermal windows here. There is a notch at the bottom for drain. No condensation here but if that owner gets on the forum here, we can help diagnose the problem. I had a window leak from the factory. Hehr manuf defect so maybe he has that problem.

float5 · 10-10-2017, 04:19 PM

The main thing to do for condensation is to open windows (and vents) even when cold. Many people want to close up as well as they can but windows need to be open at least some for that reason, and in case of any problems with heating units.

**rbryan4** · 10-10-2017, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by float5

The main thing to do for condensation is to open windows (and vents) even when cold. Many people want to close up as well as they can but windows need to be open at least some for that reason, and in case of any problems with heating units.

Right. Crack a window (we open the one over the sink area on our 19) and turn the MaxxFan on lowest exhaust setting. No condensation issues at all when we do this.

TheWanderers · 10-10-2017, 05:56 PM

We're working on our build sheet so I can't profess to have any real Escape experience in this area. However, we camped a year in our Scamp and I think those trailers have the same issues of condensation problems when buttoned up too tight. We normally left the escape hatch/roof vent open about and inch and ran the heater on the lowest setting and had zero condensation issues. Every night we'd need to ensure we had a window or two open unless it was middle of summer and we were running the A/C and then that unit kept the air cool and dry.

thoer · 10-10-2017, 06:16 PM

A tightly enclosed space with a couple of humans pumping out moisture in every breathe and perspiration, with nowhere for the moisture to go is always going to cause condensation when that humid air contacts a cool surface. Long ago in cold weather I slept in a tightly closed up tent thinking only of keeping the heat in and awoke in the middle of the night with water dripping on me from the top of the tent.

I can say that the new thermal awing windows in our 21 get far less condensation on them than the thermal sliders in our 2010 17 did, but we still always sleep with some combination of window and/or top vents open.

wetzk · 10-10-2017, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gocamp

Have the new frameless thermal windows here. There is a notch at the bottom for drain. No condensation here but if that owner gets on the forum here, we can help diagnose the problem. I had a window leak from the factory. Hehr manuf defect so maybe he has that problem.

Same here, replacement window is fine. If he see's him again ask him if he is getting water between the screen and the glass and if any screws are rusting. That's what ours was doing.

Jake930 · 10-10-2017, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rbryan4

Right. Crack a window (we open the one over the sink area on our 19) and turn the MaxxFan on lowest exhaust setting. No condensation issues at all when we do this.

We do the same on our 21. No condensation problems in over 8000 miles. Yet.

NW Cat Owner · 10-10-2017, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake930

We do the same on our 21. No condensation problems in over 8000 miles. Yet.

Well, dang, you forgot to say "knock on wood" (and do it), so you now know what's gonna happen, don't you?

NEWYORKHILLBILLY · 10-11-2017, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wetzk

Same here, replacement window is fine. If he see's him again ask him if he is getting water between the screen and the glass and if any screws are rusting. That's what ours was doing.

screws rusting on the windows or a bad window you had replaced?

wetzk · 10-11-2017, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NEWYORKHILLBILLY

screws rusting on the windows or a bad window you had replaced?

The lower screws on the inside of the rear window were rusting. And after a rain and on dewy mornings we had water dripping from them on to the mattress.

It was not a common problem and Escape handled the replacement with Hehr.

http://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f9...tml#post208285

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