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Old 10-26-2010, 08:53 PM   #1
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Damaged Escape 19 For Sale

This appeared on the fiberglassrv.com forum as an item for sale on CraigsList.

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/rvs/2027376866.html
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Old 10-26-2010, 08:55 PM   #2
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Re: Damaged Escape 19 For Sale

Unfortunate what happened to the Escape 19. The damage seems to be the front end and that is the smallest and grainiest photo. I cannot tell from the poor photo if the front fiberglass is cracked or just scratched.

Appears that the fresh water tank was ripped off and the cabinet drawers are missing. I might be a bit concerned about the frame, definite damage in the rear and perhaps more on the front. After that it is just conjecture.

No inside photo with the front end, would guess that was where the most damage occurred.
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Old 10-26-2010, 10:09 PM   #3
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Re: Damaged Escape 19 For Sale

So, the insurance company wrote it off, since this seller got it from them.

In other words, the insurance company determined that it would cost more to repair than to replace.

A picture is worth 7 cents.

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Old 10-26-2010, 11:30 PM   #4
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Re: Damaged Escape 19 For Sale

Here is a better photo of the front.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...man995/1-2.jpg



This should be better. Quality of the photo is questionable.
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Old 10-26-2010, 11:57 PM   #5
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Re: Damaged Escape 19 For Sale

Link doesn't work for me. I get "page not found".

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Old 10-27-2010, 01:45 AM   #6
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Re: Damaged Escape 19 For Sale

Hi: All...YIKES!!! Too bad the area of worst damage is the poorest pic. Looks like a lot of frame damage also. Not my idea of a fixer upper. Alf
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Old 10-27-2010, 08:41 AM   #7
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Re: Damaged Escape 19 For Sale

Could this be the trailer that Reace wrote about some months back which rolled?

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Old 10-27-2010, 01:02 PM   #8
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Re: Damaged Escape 19 For Sale

Here's more info regarding this trailer. Someone posted a response to the Craigslist ad. It certainly sounds like the same one that Reace posted about rolling.

"This trailer did NOT just sustain minor damage; this trailer, as well as its tow vehicle, ROLLED. Plus, if this trailer's been out in the rain this week, the water damage has gotten into the insulation.

Massive torsion damage to this trailer, frame is shot, check out the axles, and why haven't they posted pics of the inside front interior? Because it's demolished.

This salvage dealer bit off more than he can chew and is trying to pass off his problem. Escape trailers are FANTASTIC, but unless you know what you're getting into...beware."

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/rvs/2027889605.html
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Old 10-27-2010, 10:29 PM   #9
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Re: Damaged Escape 19 For Sale

I would have expected it to look a whole lot worse if it were rolled. Unless it only rolled onto one side (gently), the awning isn't even all out of shape and the arms are still attached. Tough bugger.
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:59 AM   #10
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Re: Damaged Escape 19 For Sale

Look in the background of the seventh picture down in the Craigslist post. It appears to be a 5th wheel (not an Escape) which burned, and the fire appears to have occurred in the propane-storage bay. Kinda scary.

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Old 10-28-2010, 09:32 AM   #11
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Re: Damaged Escape 19 For Sale

Hi: All...Those pic's look, to me, to have been shot in a RV salvage/storage yard. They are scary...and it's not even Halloween yet!!!
I've seen what a propane fridge fire can do to the side of a slide in truck camper and it ain't purdy. Alf
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Old 10-28-2010, 10:40 AM   #12
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Re: Damaged Escape 19 For Sale

After looking at the photos again I think someone has made the proper conclusion that it was not a total roll over. It looks like it landed on the driver's side as the hatch, hub cap and water heater vent are all damaged. Perhaps the most force hit the front portion of the driver side as the fiberglass across the front appears cracked above and below the belly band and that hatch seems to show the most damage.

The awning and roof items look intact, indicating those areas did not hit the ground. All said and done you still have two cracked body halves, a frame replacement and who knows what on the inside. I still think it is for parts only.

Those units around it certainly do make for a Halloween scare.
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:19 PM   #13
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According to the 14th post, it was rolled,

http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...gon-44188.html
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:46 PM   #14
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Re: Damaged Escape 19 For Sale

It may depend on how you define "rolled". I'd call anything more than 90 degrees a roll. If it rolled up to 180 degrees on the left side, the awning would be unscathed.
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Old 11-01-2010, 07:41 AM   #15
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Re: Damaged Escape 19 For Sale

Matt in SV, a moderator on FiberglassRV, has purchased this trailer. He and his wife flew from California and rented a U-Haul cargo trailer to get the 19 footer back to California. If you care to read about his impression of the damage, etc. check out this topic on FiberglassRV: http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...1-a-44225.html
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Old 11-01-2010, 08:47 AM   #16
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Re: Damaged Escape 19 For Sale

Interesting account of the inspection and tow home. Apparently it wasn't as badly damaged as some feared; but a daunting task notwithstanding.

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Old 11-01-2010, 09:19 AM   #17
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Hi: All...Thanks to Donna D. for the link. IMHO for somewhere slightly south of 10K they'll have a great Escape!!! All it takes is "Time and money" and I have lots of one and none of the other. Alf
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It's going to make for an interesting thread to follow. I hope Matt thoroughly documents (with pictures!) the journey to rebirth!
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Hi: Donna D...I thought for sure you'd be replying to Reace's for sale post. He's got your trailer ready...and listed. Alf
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Old 11-03-2010, 03:02 AM   #20
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Hi it's Matt, the buyer of the 19.

The damage I've seen makes it appear that the trailer rolled onto its side and slid some distance on asphalt before or after impact on the front, mostly on the driver side. Although it ground away about half the front of the aluminum rub strip/belly band on its left side, the damage on that side was apparently limited to the cargo access hatch under the bed, the furnace grille, and the plastic strips surrounding the lower fridge vent.

It's currently sitting in the drive with a few fans blowing inside and all the windows open. There's no visible moisture at this point, but I expect it will take a week or two to get it fully dried out. Any tips on getting it dry would be appreciated. I thought about running a couple space heaters or maybe closing it up and trying the AC to dehumidify, but plain old ventilation seems like the way to go.

Aside from the fiberglass repair, at this point the only total write offs were the driver side cargo hatch, one of the propane tanks, a couple of reflectors and at least one of the leveling scissors. I may need to replace the gravel guard, but I'm not totally sure. The inside will need a rebuilt driver side overhead, two drawers, front dinette cushions and a queen bed. Somewhere along the line, the water tank broke loose, but it actually looks ok.

This trailer seems to have quite a few of the options, including the double glazing, air conditioner, outdoor AC outlet, extra propane connector, rear hitch, (unless that's standard), 3 burner stove and cover. And this bunk hammock: Does anyone know if the gaucho option mounts on the same brackets as the hammock? I think it's cumbersome: too heavy, too difficult to assemble install and remove, too low and awkward to store.

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