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Old 08-22-2014, 06:51 PM   #81
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Back on topic. I like Diesel.
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Old 08-22-2014, 07:02 PM   #82
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Back on topic. I like Diesel.
Me too, except when I spill some trying to fill my Kubota tractor with my 5 gallon can. (The designers clearly thought that everyone was going to have their own fuel pump to fill it.)
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Old 08-22-2014, 08:23 PM   #83
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Ok, but if it walks like duck.......
I would presume you are referring to one of the Oregon Ducks....

And no political beliefs being promoted here. I simply wanted to know the reasoning behind the gas pumping rule.
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Old 08-22-2014, 09:11 PM   #84
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The issue I have with diesel is the up charge for the technology which is older than dirt. I test drove a 2014 diesel Ram1500 yesterday, MSRP of $48K, almost identical to my 2009 Ram1500 in weights/specs other than the smaller motor. I'd have to pay $20k to up grade.
Which technology are you thinking of, Jim? The 2009 and current versions are the same chassis and body design, but the EcoDiesel engine is stuffed with current technology - nothing of any significance in common with an old mechanically-injected diesel engine. The current truck also has a new 8-speed transmission.

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I'm going to wait for more, like the Nissan Frontier diesel and the Toyota diesel next year.
Waiting for a comparison with other alternatives seems like a perfectly good idea, but I don't know what technology either Nissan or Toyota would offer that the Ram doesn't already have. In fact, with a coil (or air) suspension under the rear of the Ram, it will likely be ahead of all the others, which will likely continue with cart springs.

Also, while Nissan is showing a Cummins-powered Frontier project they haven't said anything about production, and I haven't heard anything about a Toyota diesel... did I miss something?
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Old 08-22-2014, 09:13 PM   #85
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I would much prefer to pump my own fuel. We were in Oregon in March and the gas jockey let the gas cap swing against the side of my truck instead of hooking it on the fuel door then he tried to squeeze in as much diesel as possible and overfilled the tank so it ran down the side and left a puddle on the ground I had to drive through.
Exactly why I avoid full-serve, even when there is no cost difference.
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It is still interesting to me that diesel is easier to refine from oil than gasoline, so it is cheaper to produce and used to be quite a bit cheaper than gasoline to buy. I found this on the subject: Why Diesel Costs More Than Gasoline
The key word in that statement is "was". It's not cheap now, because it is now just as "refined" and critically spec'd product as gasoline. The article - similar to others I've seen - does a reasonable job of describing some of the other cost factors.
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Old 08-22-2014, 09:23 PM   #87
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Me too, except when I spill some trying to fill my Kubota tractor with my 5 gallon can. (The designers clearly thought that everyone was going to have their own fuel pump to fill it.)
I have tried a Flo N' Go Home Filling Station, but the seal to the can was problematic (which keeps it from siphoning effectively) and the cheap hose cracked (making it leak and rendering it useless). Leaking diesel is even less appealing than leaking gasoline. Sound idea for this situation, poorly executed.
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Old 08-22-2014, 11:23 PM   #88
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If you are going to tow a 5th wheel trailer with the new Ram 1500 Eco diesel, do not order the optional air suspension. You will not be able to install a 5th wheel hitch......
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Reace and Wayne nixed the rambox too.
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Old 08-23-2014, 12:13 AM   #90
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If you are going to tow a 5th wheel trailer with the new Ram 1500 Eco diesel, do not order the optional air suspension. You will not be able to install a 5th wheel hitch......
There must be some interference between the hitch brackets and some of the suspension hardware - probably air lines, pump, or reservoir. Too bad - air suspension would be great with the pin load of the trailer.

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