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02-11-2019, 08:44 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 21
Posts: 2,939
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Don't assume anything. Four days before our completion- which was also orientation ETI called to say three windows were installed and four were on backorder. This was after calling them three days prior to confirm everything was all set so I could book a flight for Susan.
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02-11-2019, 09:41 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Port Townsend, Washington
Trailer: 2010 17B “MATT”, then 2017 19 “Lilly”
Posts: 974
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Originally Posted by travdes
I received word from Escape today that the manufacturer of the windows have been acquired and will be moving their manufacturing. The change means all small frameless thermal windows are no longer available. Whats the biggest consequence of switching to non-thermal, or should I just go with sliding thermal?
Excerpt is below:
"On Friday, we were advised they will no longer be manufacturing the Small (14”w x 16”h) Frame-less Thermal Window, due to warranty issues, which we use in the manufacturing of the Escape Travel Trailer. This window is used in the following locations:
The Optional Bathroom Window
Frt. Passenger and Driver’s Side Windows in the 17’B
The Frt. Passenger Side in the 17’A
The Optional Kitchen Window 17’A, 17’B, and 19’
The Optional Window over the 2-Drawer Stack in the 21’
You are receiving this email as the manufacturing of your trailer will be affected by these changes to the Frame-less Windows. Please find attached a copy of your build sheet which reflects this change with the Frame-less Thermal to a Frame-less Non-Thermal Window."
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Well that’s a bummer. Condolences to all who are adversely affected. I had one bad window that ETI replaced under warranty. Actually, they mailed it to me per my request, and I have yet to install it. Maybe I’ll hold off on doing that til the separation gets worse. Right now I can slip a dollar bill in between the panes, but that’s it. Shame on the window manufacturer for screwing up and then dropping the ball on making it right. Kudos to ETI for doing the best they can and for keeping everyone informed in a timely fashion!
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02-11-2019, 09:43 PM
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Mission, British Columbia
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21 (On Order) - Due May 2nd
Posts: 42
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Is this consensus just to stick with the non-thermal frameless then?
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02-11-2019, 09:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 21
Posts: 2,939
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Looked at ETI website to be sure: a non-thermal frameless doesn't seem to exist. Function over form- slider thermal windows perform!
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02-11-2019, 10:00 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Coquitlam, British Columbia
Trailer: 17b
Posts: 10
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We got the email too for our March 15 completion. As far as I can tell the replacement windows are non thermal frameless. I was wondering about trying to switch to the framed windows but I am guessing that the same small windows in the 17B in the slider are non-thermal as well??
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02-11-2019, 10:36 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bremerton, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19 - Salish "See", 2019 5.0 TA ordered
Posts: 547
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Quote:
Originally Posted by travdes
Is this consensus just to stick with the non-thermal frameless then?
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No. This issue only applies to the Small (14”w x 16”h) thermo frameless windows. The larger sizes are not impacted.
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02-12-2019, 08:28 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: York, Pennsylvania
Trailer: 2019 2ndG Escape 21'LE DejaView pulled by 2014 Ram Hemi/8sp
Posts: 17,079
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Depending on Escape model, the optional bath and driver side 21' will be non thermal awning windows. The 19' E model has the same optional bath that is impacted. Not sure if the optional kitchen in the E17 is the same?
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02-12-2019, 05:22 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Beloeil - South of Montreal, Quebec
Trailer: Escape 17B - 2019
Posts: 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Depending on Escape model, the optional bath and driver side 21' will be non thermal awning windows. The 19' E model has the same optional bath that is impacted. Not sure if the optional kitchen in the E17 is the same?
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Jim, with the E17B, completion date Feb 15, three windows have been touched, i.e. Kitchen, front passenger side & driver side. I could see those changes from the pictures ETI been sending during production. Just receive ETI e-mail today advising the change.
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02-12-2019, 07:05 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: York, Pennsylvania
Trailer: 2019 2ndG Escape 21'LE DejaView pulled by 2014 Ram Hemi/8sp
Posts: 17,079
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Bummer, hopefully we will be able to compensate somehow......
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02-12-2019, 07:40 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Beloeil - South of Montreal, Quebec
Trailer: Escape 17B - 2019
Posts: 7
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ETI compensation is $25 CDN per Window, since we already paid for thé frameless thermal Windows. The change is minor in my opinion and can live easily with it.
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