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Old 07-15-2013, 10:16 PM   #11
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We just finished our first meal in our Escape! Got through the border without any problems. It took about 15 minutes once we got to the border agent. They had us pull over and they checked the paperwork and the vin number..stamped the form and sent us off. We stopped at a koa about an hour down the road and spent the afternoon giving the inside of the trailer a good cleaning. Then stowed the miscellaneous stuff we had brought. Of course the cleanup would not be necessary for those of you getting new trailers.
The short bed frontier seems to be working ok. We mounted the B&W patriot hitch 29 inches behind the cab...that put it 9 inches behind the axle. We can make a fairly tight turn but are still figuring that out. If necessary the hitch can be made to move the pivot point back 4 inches..not on the fly...the pivot arms have to be removed and reinstalled in the other position.
Tows fine...doesn't feel much different than towing the Scamp 5er that we used to have.
We'll have to empty the tanks in the morning...leftovers from previous owner. Then we'll have a better idea if the tank monitors are working. Got a tank wand from Tammy but somehow left it at the factory..darn! Maybe they will ship it us.
So that's the report from day one. Tomorrow we'll tow for about 300 miles.
Time for ice cream!
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:42 PM   #12
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Congratulations!

Have you run over a truck scale to determine the axle loads yet? It would be interesting to see how it works out with the pin further back than usual.
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:45 PM   #13
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There is now a CAT scale at a truck stop just west of Hope. I haven't tried it yet for ease or expense.
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:59 PM   #14
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I'm just curious...
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If necessary the hitch can be made to move the pivot point back 4 inches..not on the fly...the pivot arms have to be removed and reinstalled in the other position.
Does the 5.0 have the usual adjustment range in its pinbox, and if so did you adjust that?

It looks like you have the hitch arms fully forward. Which vertical position (of the 4 available) did you need to match the 5.0?

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Old 07-16-2013, 04:07 PM   #15
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There is now a CAT scale at a truck stop just west of Hope. I haven't tried it yet for ease or expense.
I've never found the need to pay for a CAT Scale; I just use the "free" (taxpayer-provided) highway weigh stations. The CAT scale might be more convenient, since they report all the axle readings, rather than the advance-stop-record-advance cycle of using the government single scales.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:23 PM   #16
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I don't mind doing the math to save a buck
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:38 PM   #17
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The highway dept. scales at Hope almost always have a half dozen semi trucks lined up waiting. I wouldn't have the nerve to delay them by weighing.
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:43 PM   #18
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Haven't done a weigh-in yet. Will wait until we get home.
As for the hitch...we started with the straight up (fully forward) position...figured we could move it back the 4 inches if we needed. We did have to adjust the height position...we had started with the lowest position and needed to raise it up one notch before hitching up the trailer. There is some adjustment available in the pin box but we didn't mess with that...left it where it was from the previous owner. That doesn't change the pivot point anyway.

Just finished a full day of towing...seems fine so far. Still playing with how tight a turn we can make....
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:23 AM   #19
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Fran and Dave,

I really appreciate your updates, especially on the towing aspect. I too have a Frontier short bed, and really do not want to upgrade my truck, I really like it, not to mention the cost to change trucks-.

Thanks again, and look forward to future updates!
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