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Old 01-07-2018, 03:35 PM   #21
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IMHO, good tires makes as much of a difference as 4x4. my Tacoma 4x4 has BFG All-Terrain KO2 tires, fairly new.
Tires make all the difference. This is why on our vehicles we use winter tires all winter and switch for the summer. All season will not cut it as well on snow and ice as they rubber is firmer. Winter tire rubber is formulated to grip better in cold temps. Makes a HUGE difference in traction.

I never used to bother with my 4x4's, but with towing a trailer now all winter long wend to winter tires last winter for the first time. I can't believe I never did it before, what a difference. Our car has pretty much always had them.

Most front wheel drives cars with winter tires do great on snow and ice. I end up using 4x4 on my truck a lot in the winter as the rear tires don't get great traction unless there is a lot of cargo weight.
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Old 01-07-2018, 04:32 PM   #22
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Tires make all the difference. This is why on our vehicles we use winter tires all winter and switch for the summer. All season will not cut it as well on snow and ice as they rubber is firmer. Winter tire rubber is formulated to grip better in cold temps. Makes a HUGE difference in traction.

I never used to bother with my 4x4's, but with towing a trailer now all winter long wend to winter tires last winter for the first time. I can't believe I never did it before, what a difference. Our car has pretty much always had them.

Most front wheel drives cars with winter tires do great on snow and ice. I end up using 4x4 on my truck a lot in the winter as the rear tires don't get great traction unless there is a lot of cargo weight.
winter where I live just means rain, sometimes a lot of it, so dedicated winter tires just don't make sense. my passenger cars (early 90s Mercedes E class, we have 2-3 of them) get Michelin Premiere A/S (All Season grand touring tires), and my Tacoma gets aforementioned BFG A/T KO2's. I've had the Tacoma in the snow a couple times, and it was incredibly sure footed. It seems much better balanced than traditional pickups.
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Old 01-07-2018, 04:51 PM   #23
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I used to ice race also, tractionized tires at the start and studded near the end.
Met the snow piles and straw bales a few times learned a lot about traction on snow vs ice, fun times
We used to race go carts on ice. Studded tires. Was a good time. I love those BF Goodrich All Traction Tires. If I had a pickup and needed it in snow that’s what I would run. Had several sets on pickups in years gone by. Even had Goodrich Super All Traction’s on my F-1, 50 years ago. Far superior to Goodyear Wranglers but not for extended highway miles.
Pulling on snow and ice with trailers certainly can be done but easy does it and watch for
Black Ice and keep to daytime if possible.
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There is 4 wheel drive, full or part time which in some vehicles is one front and one rear wheel power, others like the Subaru is all wheel, all the time. I had a posi-traction set up in a Dodge truck which drove like my old Jeep which had 4 wheel drive all the wheels, part time. But if you put a set of chains on a posi rear end and it becomes a tank, regardless of the tires on the vehicle.
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