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Old 05-03-2016, 06:51 PM   #1
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Escape 19 Layout Question - Option

Hello,

Im considering purchasing a new Escape 19 and I have read that escape has lots of options. One of the things I have noticed about the escapes is they all seem to have a wet bath and a 4 person dinette.

My family is the type that we do all of our eating generally outside in a easy up covered shade or similar. We rarely if ever use a 4 person dinette. I have taken the layout and changed it a bit to remove the dinette and add a non wet bath setup along with more counter space.

Do you think this is something they would consider or is it to much work for them to consider it?

Please take a look and let me know what you think? Surely I cant have the only family that prefers to do all of its eating outside and the dinette ends up wasted space.
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Old 05-03-2016, 06:54 PM   #2
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Escape 19 Layout Question - Option

It's an interesting layout, but my guess is there's no way they'll relocate the bath, or have a separate bath and shower. They will however OMIT the bath, and build a 19A. The bath space is taken up by more counters and cabinets.

The other issue with removing the front dinette is that your 19 would only sleep two.

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Old 05-03-2016, 06:57 PM   #3
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I think the best thing you could do is to ask ETI directly. I'm sure that you will get a lot of opinions on your ideas (some positive but probably mostly negative as people tend to look at changes from their own perspective) but the only answer that counts is from ETI.
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:00 PM   #4
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The shower stall and shower pan are molded fiberglass made to fit the wall and wheel well on the 19' (and 5.0TA). It's doubtful ETI would be willing to build a one-off mold for this layout... but, wouldn't hurt to ask!


I wonder how this layout would change the weight side-to-side, etc.
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but the only answer that counts is from ETI.

True, you should ask. We asked alot. Sometimes it was yes, sometimes no.

But, right now there is no 19 built with bathroom fixtures in the front.
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I was concerned with the weights and such but the tanks could be held close to the same location if you flipped the toilet to the other wall and just had the shower drain down to the same tank right?

Its just my wife and I now all the kids are grown and out so having a 19 that sleeps just two is perfect in my opinion. Besides if someone was a dog owner they could even put the doggy bed down at the end between the two doors.

I honestly have not even had a chance to see a 19 other than on the website. Factory is only a 5 hour drive away so I might have to cruise up on a Thursday and take a look and ask some questions.

Thanks for all the opinions.
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I can say with near certainty that they would not build a bath like that, though as Robert said, they will eliminate it.

A couple drawbacks that I see with your plan as shown, something that would greatly minimize potential return in the case of resale;

- no dinette at all. We too very rarely used ours, though were certainly glad to have it though times when wanted. As much as for eating when needed, I think it got more use in the evening for 4 people to hang out when weather conditions are miserable.
- limited to room for two to sleep in
- would have to eliminate all the front windows, leaving the interior at the front very dark
- Loss of good storage space, under the dinette seats, and upper cabinets on the sides

You could maybe have them leave out everything in the front, leaving you a blank slate to do what you wanted yourself.

We are both HUGE fans of the wet bath for a few reasons. We rarely ever shower in the trailer, and we appreciate the smaller size leaving more space for other uses.
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That sounds like a plan. Reace can give you a lot more detail than we can.


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I honestly have not even had a chance to see a 19 other than on the website. Factory is only a 5 hour drive away so I might have to cruise up on a Thursday and take a look and ask some questions.
This would be a wise decision to make, Robert. This will answer all your questions with certainty, and maybe you could get some of their input towards your thoughts and ideas.
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IF I was interested in a big change like your layout, I'd also want the refrigerator and closet on the door side and one big counter where those items currently are found. The closet could be just a tad bigger if moved too. I'm such a dreamer...
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