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Old 08-10-2015, 02:11 PM   #101
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Here is alternative. Although the hatch does not access the area under the stairs, it does access a large and deep area, almost too deep. I had ETI install the hatch below the body line so I could divide the space between outside access and inside access. The smaller area at the bottom behind the hatch is large enough to hold levellers, X-ball chocks, tire chocks and other small misc, stuff. The upper area is also large, I just had to add a door above the fire extinguisher.
Wish I had thought of that. Too late now, but it would have been nice. But I wasn't really aware of how high that compartment was and it never occurred to me that it could be divided.

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I think the non-thermal opening windows are the best for us even though we have thermal windows on the others. The emergency exit above the bed also can be cranked open to provide additional ventilation.
That is exactly what we did. Wanted to be able to open windows and turn on the MaxxFan on cool evenings/nights.
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Old 08-10-2015, 02:28 PM   #102
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If I were to do it over I'd go for the opening ones.
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Old 08-10-2015, 08:41 PM   #103
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Re Towing
I mentioned this on another thread a while back that I place a fresnel lens on the rear window of my truck. Gives a fish eye view of hitch when backing up. At least I have some sort of visual ... and it works even better as I get use to it. At first I did the spray bottle thing to install but more lately I have got less fussy and just slap it up there dry to hook up then take it off after or at least after unhitching. My truck sounds like the same setup as Donna's except I have a rollup tonneau on my F150... but site lines are likely similar. Egs of the fresnal lens I am talking about:
Amazon.com: SINEDY Wide Angle Rear Window Fresnel Lens For Car Van SUV Cosy Specialized: Automotive

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I have a question about under bed storage. Is there anything there or no? Our existing fifth wheel (getting on in age) has room for the three tables we take along with us. Just wondering if the 5.0 ta has a similar provision.
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:22 PM   #104
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I have a question about under bed storage. Is there anything there or no? Our existing fifth wheel (getting on in age) has room for the three tables we take along with us. Just wondering if the 5.0 ta has a similar provision.
None. The only under bed storage is the front storage compartment which is under the sleeping loft overhang. And while it is the largest of the outside accessible storage compartments, the only table that could be stored there would be a very small folding table. Did I say very small?
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Old 08-11-2015, 01:13 AM   #105
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Hi Mark. No not big enough for lawn chairs. But a great place for propane stove, hoses, electrical cords and such.
Doug, is that a Reliance Desert Patrol 6-gallon/23-litre water container? That would make that upper compartment more than 19" deep (front to back), and about 18" tall, which seems like a substantial space. Maybe it's a smaller container?
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Old 08-11-2015, 03:12 AM   #106
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None. The only under bed storage is the front storage compartment which is under the sleeping loft overhang. And while it is the largest of the outside accessible storage compartments, the only table that could be stored there would be a very small folding table. Did I say very small?
Thanks for the info .... now it makes sense why there is so much clearance to the ceiling. We have less than that in the old Peak made Frontier but it becomes hard to sacrifice that storage space under the bed where we have a table for the Napoleon Travel Q, smaller lifetime table for the camp stove and a larger general purpose lifetime table. We don't always camp where a picnic table is available so it's nice to bring these along. I guess it might be possible to mount some kind of box on the rear of the 5.0 T/A for such purpose .... anyone do that?

One other point on Towing/Hitching. A comment was made about the Andersen Hitch being so much quieter than the Reese in comparison. I have never owned a Reese but did own a DSP with my previous TV ..... and can attest to the noisy aspect...... yes, very noisy if rear sliding window was open. With this new F150 ecoboost with 6.5 foot box the hitch installer I went with talked me into a Curt Q20. It is very quiet as it pivots around a rubber bushing vs 2 directional steel plates. I wasn't sure about the Q20 last year as I had a couple occasions where I had difficulty hooking up on slightly uneven ground. But so far I think I found the problem to that this summer as it needs a seasonal lubrication and I am pretty sure the installer or maybe even manufacturer never gave it one. Once greased up - it seems to work like a charm .... and as mentioned very quiet .... love the Q20.

Greasing/Lubricating might seem like a chore but really it isn't. But a word of caution with those using Reese hitches is I understand they need every so often every piece needs to be taken apart, cleaned and lubricated .... otherwise there could be a failure .... and there has been some. I guess to make sure and read the owners manual at minimum.

Bottom line about the hitches is the Andersen Hitch might be quiet .... but I just bet the Curt Q20 is just as quiet if not more so. Kind of overkill for my 22' fifth and for the 5.0 T/A ..... but much of the cost is in the installation anyway (thought about installing myself, but didn't).
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The actual interior dimensions of the upper front storage compartment (mine, at least) are as follows (all dimensions are in inches):
30-3/8 wide X 18-5/8 high X 17-9/16 deep.


The hatch opening is:
26-5/8 wide X 11-3/4 high, with rounded corners.


While I haven't measured the inside dimensions of the compartment on the passenger side in front of the door, it probably comes close to the upper front compartment in capacity (cubic inches). It is far less "useable" due to the small hatch and the fact that the space is more vertical rather than horizontal.
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a table for the Napoleon Travel Q, smaller lifetime table for the camp stove and a larger general purpose lifetime table. We don't always camp where a picnic table is available so it's nice to bring these along. I guess it might be possible to mount some kind of box on the rear of the 5.0 T/A for such purpose .... anyone do that?




Three extra tables seems a lot of extra weight. These fiberglass units weight less than conventional units and also carry less. Most of the owners have moved up from smaller trailers and love the extra room, those who are downsizing my have to eliminate some of the extra baggage they have been hauling around. Perhaps you can forgo the stock interior table and use one of your tables inside and then take it outside, dual purpose so to speak?
Also the rear hitch has a 100 lb limit and one has to keep in mind that fresh tank is in the rear and putting too much weight back there may effect handling.
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Also the rear hitch has a 100 lb limit and one has to keep in mind that fresh tank is in the rear and putting too much weight back there may effect handling.
For what it's worth, I was told by a fairly reliable source at ETI that the 150 pound weight restriction on the bicycle carrier was established to avoid owners from altering the tongue weight too much, which could drastically affect trailer response (sway), and that the bicycle rack is strong enough to handle more than 150 pounds. The same individual indicated that due to a 5th wheel's non-propensity to sway, added weight in the rear, within reason, was not so much of a concern as it is with the tow behind trailers.
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Old 08-11-2015, 05:06 PM   #110
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a table for the Napoleon Travel Q, smaller lifetime table for the camp stove and a larger general purpose lifetime table. We don't always camp where a picnic table is available so it's nice to bring these along. I guess it might be possible to mount some kind of box on the rear of the 5.0 T/A for such purpose .... anyone do that?




Three extra tables seems a lot of extra weight. These fiberglass units weight less than conventional units and also carry less. Most of the owners have moved up from smaller trailers and love the extra room, those who are downsizing my have to eliminate some of the extra baggage they have been hauling around. Perhaps you can forgo the stock interior table and use one of your tables inside and then take it outside, dual purpose so to speak?
Also the rear hitch has a 100 lb limit and one has to keep in mind that fresh tank is in the rear and putting too much weight back there may effect handling.
Thanks, and I actually did think about this a bit but in reverse. Perhaps ditching the general purpose table we have now and using the stock interior table outside when needed. However, I wouldn't want to be moving it back and forth so have yet to convince myself of this.

Over the years, we have gradually been taking less and less stuff with us. About the only thing I carry in the truck bed these days are a small 10lb propane bottle and the blocks/stands for the jacks. Perhaps a bit of firewood but that is it. Most everything else has it's place in the trailer and is always with us - about the only clutter in the trailer is the foldable lawn chairs stored under the dinette table. The rear seat area of the truck is for any specific use equipment we would take along for a particular trip (ie. Golf clubs, fishing gear, etc, etc).

Would prefer to keep things organized in this manner. Outside storage seems to be as much and maybe even a bit more than we have now. Inside storage seems a bit less with nothing under the bed and no separate shower enclosure that comes in very handy for storing the laundry bag along with a few other items. I sure like the thoughtful extra storage under the steps up to the bed - perhaps those couple of storage points could be used as direct laundry baskets or storing other items we now keep in the shower enclosure.
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