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Old 03-19-2016, 10:41 AM   #21
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Don't know if it's still Filon.

"One-Piece, Corona Treated, Continuous Fiberglass
Hot, Polyurethane Laminated, Multi-Layered Substrate Walls"
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Old 03-19-2016, 11:02 AM   #22
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I know a guy who went from a Casita to an AF and loves it. He lives fulltime in it and takes it way off the backroads. He's been living in it for over two years with no problems and really enjoys the extra space and warmth.
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Old 03-19-2016, 11:09 AM   #23
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The fact that molded fiberglass has less areas for leaks is a definitely a strong point. But it seems like there are still lots of areas that can leak and need maintenance …A/C, vents, windows, pipes, side seam etc. I think a stronger point is less cosmetic and structural damage when the eventual leak does shows up.

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Old 03-19-2016, 11:13 AM   #24
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Even if it isn't Filon (or is it) it doesn't stop water penetration past the sealant, where it soaks insulation (mold) and seeps to areas where water does do damage. Unless the inner paneling and floor are water proof you will still have damage. After our first leak the floor was changed from particle board to plywood, but in 2014 my foot almost went through the rotted plywood floor hidden under the vinyl flooring that hadn't turned colors yet.
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Old 03-19-2016, 11:26 AM   #25
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wonater leaks

We are on our 4th plastic trailer of 3 different brands and we have had no leaks with minimum maintenance. The motorhomes and other trailers I had to climb on top and reseal.
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Old 03-19-2016, 11:26 AM   #26
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The molded fiberglass trailers are less likely to leak because the high stress points where walls meet floor and roof can't leak. Plus when water gets under the flooring in an Escape it should flow to drain ports that ETI pointed out during our factory tour. The double walls of stick trailers trap the moisture where it is held by the insulation against the wood layer of paneling. I think the damage from a leak in an Escape or other molded fiberglass trailer would be far less damaging structurally.
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Old 03-19-2016, 11:28 AM   #27
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Don't know if it's still Filon.

"One-Piece, Corona Treated, Continuous Fiberglass
Hot, Polyurethane Laminated, Multi-Layered Substrate Walls"
I think Filon is just a type of fiberglass. I wouldn't think that the Filon itself would contribute to any delamination tendencies. It's probably more the lamination technique used, and how prone the roof seams are to leaks.

I'll make sure to ask the Arctic Fox forum if there are still delamination issues when get around to posting there.
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Old 03-19-2016, 11:30 AM   #28
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Jack, it may be that we have so much more rain in the PNW. I doubt that a pinhole leak in Arizona would be as significant as in our climate. Also, there are plenty of stick trailers that don't leak, but more than mounded fiberglass and with more damage.
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Old 03-19-2016, 11:44 AM   #29
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If you can make do with a 6 foot 4 inch ceiling (excluding under air conditioner) I would suggest the Escape is a better investment, better quality and with FAR better support than Northwood gives. I ran into other Nash and Arctic Fox owners who had significant issues and weren't happy with Northwoods response.

But if you can't stand up in an Escape maybe another mounded fiberglass trailer might have more head room. None that I have seen would be any better with interior height.

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Unfortunately, the standing height is a bit too low in the Escape 21. But I have plenty of headroom in the 5.0 TA. I wish the 21 had more headroom because that model would free-up my truck bed for storage. Oh well.
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We are on our 4th plastic trailer of 3 different brands and we have had no leaks with minimum maintenance. The motorhomes and other trailers I had to climb on top and reseal.
Jack

Your home base is Arizona. Mine is Florida. I bit of difference in rain frequency!
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