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10-26-2014, 08:42 PM
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Senior Member
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Escape new features
The 19' photos on ETI do not have three large red lights at top in back but the 21' does. What is standard now? Those are not brake lights, are they?
Is ETI now putting batteries inside on 19's and 21's as standard? No longer in the box?
What is standard of late?
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10-26-2014, 08:52 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Floating Cloud
The 19' photos on ETI do not have three large red lights at top in back but the 21' does. What is standard now? Those are not brake lights, are they?
Is ETI now putting batteries inside on 19's and 21's as standard? No longer in the box?
What is standard of late?
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I was just thinking today that it would be interesting to start a list of changes each model has gone through each year.
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10-26-2014, 09:21 PM
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Senior Member
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Not sure what is standard on the 19, but the lights on the top of the 21 seem to function identically to the lights below -- that is, they are brake lights, tail lights, and turn signals.
On the 21, as far as I know, there is no choice where the batteries go if you get dual 6 volt. they are under the dinette seat on the passenger side.
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10-26-2014, 09:49 PM
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ETI's photos of the 19' show the lighting which is legally required for vehicle over 2m/80" wide: a three-light "wide vehicle identification" group in the middle, and clearance lights on each side (at the top, so they are also height clearance lights, but that's not legally required.
The 21' photos show three large bars across the top. The middle one is the same three-light identification group (but in one housing). The lamps on each side need only work as clearance lights (so, on with the tail lights), but they can do more and apparently they are wired for combined stop/turn as well. There are no separate "brake" (stop) lamps on an Escape, because it is not wired for separate turn and stop circuits (the normal RV-style tug-trailer connection does not have separate contacts for these functions).
I like the stop/turn functions up top - especially with the regular tail lamps being so low - but I've lost track of what is standard on what model.
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10-26-2014, 10:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thoer
I was just thinking today that it would be interesting to start a list of changes each model has gone through each year.
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I think that would be useful for those buying used, and for people troubleshooting for modifying their own trailer or helping others with theirs. It could be a challenge, with the number of models and years now involved.
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10-26-2014, 10:19 PM
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Commercial Member
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21 also has the 12V battery under the passenger side dinette seat.
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10-26-2014, 10:49 PM
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Senior Member
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Leon, that is good to know about the lights, that they have decided to make standard ones at the top to take care of the lights-unseen problem. I wonder if the same is now on the 15' and all models.
Charlie, thanks for the info as the batteries going inside is a change from the 19's in the box and it seems new owners of 19's are saying theirs are inside also. These are the same kind of batteries, I take it? So water needs to be added?
Mud flaps, valances and ceiling lights have been installed for a while now and I was wondering what else might be new.
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Emerson
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10-26-2014, 11:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Floating Cloud
Leon, that is good to know about the lights, that they have decided to make standard ones at the top to take care of the lights-unseen problem. I wonder if the same is now on the 15' and all models.
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The 15' and 17' (and the no-longer-produced 13' and original 5.0) are not quite wide enough to required the wide-vehicle identification or clearance lights, so it isn't just a matter of putting in full stop/turn/tail lamps instead of just clearance lights.
The 15' and 17' option lists both include "Additional Set LED Brake Lights (Horizontal)" (for $95), so it looks like the lights are not standard.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Floating Cloud
These are the same kind of batteries, I take it? So water needs to be added?
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I've never seen in the options list or otherwise heard of valve-regulated ("sealed") batteries such as AGM or gel available from ETI... but that doesn't mean a lot!
Non-sealed or "flooded" batteries eventually need water added if used enough.
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10-27-2014, 12:09 AM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
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Yup, batteries need a drink now and then, but simple to get at when under the dinette.
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10-27-2014, 12:13 AM
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Are they vented with a hose of sorts to the exterior?
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10-27-2014, 02:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Floating Cloud
Is ETI now putting batteries inside on 19's and 21's as standard? No longer in the box?
What is standard of late?
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The batteries in the 19 are still on the tongue or in the storage box if added.
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10-27-2014, 06:24 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19', 1974 Boler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4
The batteries in the 19 are still on the tongue or in the storage box if added.
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Yes 19' the batteries are on the tongue (or in the box).
I asked Reace if I could get mine moved inside the trailer and he indicated that the 19 had a light tongue weight and the batteries were needed on the tongue to add some weight there.
I also know on my 19 the second set of tail lights at the higher level were an option which we added, so the picture of the 21 may just be one that includes this option.
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10-27-2014, 07:52 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Marysville, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Floating Cloud
Are they vented with a hose of sorts to the exterior?
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Yes, the batteries on the 21's are installed under the passenger side dinette bench in a battery box that is vented outside.
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10-27-2014, 08:38 AM
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Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
I think that would be useful for those buying used, and for people troubleshooting for modifying their own trailer or helping others with theirs. It could be a challenge, with the number of models and years now involved.
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Yes it would be a lot of work - the only downside of Reace constantly improving the trailers is keeping track of all those changes/improvements.
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Eric (and Mary who is in no way responsible for anything stupid I post)
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10-27-2014, 09:00 AM
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Commercial Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Floating Cloud
Are they vented with a hose of sorts to the exterior?
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Yes, in a closed box (removable top) and vented with about a 2 inch OD plastic flex hose.
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10-27-2014, 09:24 AM
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Are there any changes to those,painstaking wheel bearings.Having to regrease,yearly is a pain.I have ,on my boat an exposed grease nipple on the ext.of the hub.I heard that ETI,was going to this or similar .But no pictures...
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10-27-2014, 09:28 AM
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Commercial Member
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I think ETI charged less than $100 to install 4 EZ-Lube hubs on my 21.
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10-27-2014, 09:34 AM
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I'm still waiting for a good explanation of why trailer bearing need to be greased and adjusted so often. I can understand with boat trailers that go into the water but not RV ones. If they can make wheel bearings in cars last as long as they now do, why are trailers decades behind?
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Eric (and Mary who is in no way responsible for anything stupid I post)
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10-27-2014, 09:54 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian G
I also know on my 19 the second set of tail lights at the higher level were an option which we added, so the picture of the 21 may just be one that includes this option.
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The upper lights on the 21 are standard. Here's a post about the lights. http://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f9...ts-3097-2.html The pic in #6 shows the additional lights for the 19. Personally, if I were carrying bikes on the 19, I would order this option. The bikes pretty much cover the lower tail lights. We installed similar lights on our Casita because of this.
Kathie
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10-27-2014, 10:02 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thoer
I'm still waiting for a good explanation of why trailer bearing need to be greased and adjusted so often. I can understand with boat trailers that go into the water but not RV ones. If they can make wheel bearings in cars last as long as they now do, why are trailers decades behind?
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Butt covering by axle/bearing manufacturers?
I have done mine once in 6 years (and that was 3 years ago, and they looked great, could have likely gone a lot longer), and do plan on doing them either right away here, or next spring. If I was putting on lots of miles, I would do them more often.
I have (almost) once a year checked the tightness of the king nut, and only at the beginning of the second year owning it did I tighten two of them one flat.
I AM NOT suggesting others follow my lead at all, but instead do what they feel comfortable with.
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