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Old 10-22-2015, 11:24 PM   #71
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I just got back after being gone a little shy of four weeks on a working trip using the trailer for my living quarters, so I guess it had a good shake down cruise. I would have to say that the new 21 exceeded my expectations in every way. The only flaw with the trailer was a minor leak at the water pump which was found a day after we picked up the trailer and was quickly fixed by tightening the connection. The furnace worked perfectly as the temps got down to the upper 20's F for several nights. The fridge was also perfect but I did not experience any temps over 80 F. Tractors was right about the Jack antenna being a good one because where the trailer was parked, over 24 channels came in. I had said if I got the one local channel that I would be happy.

The one problem to address is the Andersen hitch. The cone has developed a terrible "growl" to it and so I threw off the chains for the 350 mile trip home. The truck and trailer did seem to bounce a little more without the hitch. While using the hitch it seemed to be more of a one solid unit, but other than that it towed perfect. One pleasant surprise with the hitch was that with the ball being located a little further back, I could lower the pickup tailgate all the way with an inch to spare from the jack handle. As for the saw dust issue, I ended up with some of it in my shorts on the way home from Chilliwack in Sept.

In summation, I would have to say the biggest mistake we made in buying the trailer is that we should have done it sooner. Loren
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:07 AM   #72
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I...In summation, I would have to say the biggest mistake we made in buying the trailer is that we should have done it sooner. Loren
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Old 10-23-2015, 10:57 AM   #73
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Loren and Cathy and forum participants-Congratulations on your first trip! We also love our new Escape. One week ago we, Dan and Kathy returned from our first trip through BC, YK, NWT, Alaska and back to FL.
Just a quick note about our Anderson Hitch, purchased from and installed by ETI. This is not a reflection on ETI, they have been wonderful. Just Anderson seems to be a "POS" in construction negative terms. Here's where we are with our HITCH problems. June 26th 2015 picked up our new trailer 19' with Toyota 2014 4 Runner. Everything Perfect! Within a few weeks we were hearing growling noises from the hitch. We figured we'd go direct to the manufacturer and called Anderson. By mid-July we had a new ball unit sent to us in Fairbanks, AK and sent the defective one back to Anderson as directed. Three days later the growing started again on the new ball unit! Dan was very frustrated- In a BLM campground one night after a guy chased us into a parking lot to tell us we were making noise from the rear Dan pounded out the ball to check the inside turning mechanism-greased the inside -knowing we would destroy the sway control of the hitch, and put the ball back inside the unit pounding with hammers and a piece of firewood. Then we called ETI to inform Reese of our hitch problem. He was great and said we should stop on our way through BC after our trip. The good news is Dan feels that we did not have a sway control problem over all those mountains and ETI offered to do anything we wanted to fix our problem. We decided to try another ball unit from Anderson which ETI provided. This time we kept the greased ball unit, too, just "in case". The bad news is by Oregon more growling. We changed out the new unit for the greased one and drove on to FL. Haven't yet decided next move but probably different hitch completely.
Whatever you do, do NOT let Anderson send you just the plastic insert from the inside around the ball unit. Would be very hard to replace in the field!
Let's keep in touch on this. Sea Star Dan
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:19 PM   #74
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Nail on the head

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I qualify as an ETI cheerleader. I am very pleased with our little 17B, itsí quality and ETIís customer support. I agree with Zardozís post.

Here are my reflections: Iíve wondered about peopleís expectations who have little RV experience, no fiberglass trailer knowledge and few DIY mod/maintenance skills who live far away from ETI Chilliwack who purchase an Escape. These folk should realize that no company is perfect, no product is perfect. They should do their due diligence and have realistic expectations about the Escape product and company. You are buying a complex system. Nothing is perfect. That being said, in my experience, ETI does a superb job at customer service. It is great having a quality product that will last many years.

Owning an Escape has literally changed Liz and my lives. Our little 17b with solar has opened up our retirement life in ways I didnít think possible a few years ago. Further, Iím very thankful for the ETI forum: for the kind reception and advice we received when we were in the research/learning stage about fibreglass trailers; for the ongoing connection we now have with the ETI community.

Larry
Larry, you nailed it! We fit into The trailer novice category. However, in reading through this (and other) forum, and comparing the Escape to other trailers, the quality of the Escape trailer stands out. No, nothing is ever going to be perfect. However, it's the quality of the manufacturer that makes the difference here!
So, even as a novice, I think we and others are aware of the differences...and the exceptional quality that is rendered.

I am also acutely aware of the freedom of exploration that such a trailer gives to us! I think that's what's most exciting of all. I am so looking forward to that experience, and having the outdoors accessible and available to me, where it hasn't been before.
So, I will tkeep my fingers crossed as my pursuit continues!
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:46 PM   #75
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Haven't yet decided next move but probably different hitch completely.
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Used to have a boat named Sea Star Our plain old basic WDH that came from ETI has done from the Mexican border to all of Alaska without a hitch, you might say

No sway control and it's never been an issue. Sometimes I think there's something to be said for tried and true rather than new and improved.

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Old 10-23-2015, 12:58 PM   #76
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Used to have a boat named Sea Star Our plain old basic WDH that came from ETI has done from the Mexican border to all of Alaska without a hitch, you might say

No sway control and it's never been an issue. Sometimes I think there's something to be said for tried and true rather than new and improved.

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I agree Ron. I was skeptical about the Anderson when it came out and it seems that based on feedback from quite a few dissatisfied users, the Anderson is not the ultimate towing aid that many thought it would be. I am still happy with the 3-years trouble free conventional WDH that was supplied to me by ETI when we bought our 19'.
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Old 10-23-2015, 01:04 PM   #77
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I've kept asking how the Andersen was better and why it was worth a couple hundred dollars more than the Pro Series.
Near as I can tell, the Andersen is "worth the extra money" because they replace parts, without too much hassle.
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Old 10-23-2015, 01:28 PM   #78
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I've kept asking how the Andersen was better and why it was worth a couple hundred dollars more than the Pro Series.
Near as I can tell, the Andersen is "worth the extra money" because they replace parts, without too much hassle.
And ... You can backup with it on, it's simpler to hook and unhook to TV, and I t does double- duty by eliminating need for a sway bar. I've had no problems with mine at all.
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I've never experienced a problem backing up with the Pro Series WDH. Never felt the need for a sway bar either.
I guess the Andersen weighs less and may be simpler to hook up.
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Old 10-23-2015, 02:08 PM   #80
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I e-mailed Andersen late last night and they responded promptly this morning. They will send me a new liner so we'll see how that works out. Otherwise I will just lubricate the unit and not worry about the sway control. It worked great to take the bounce out by kind of tying the truck and trailer together. Reace recommended it to prevent what he called "galloping" and that is exactly what it did. As for getting upset over a minor problem like this, life is to short. My old grandfather never got upset over anything even when he should have gotten upset and he lived to 96. As for the trailer as a whole, I just couldn't be happier. I'm busy prepping it for winter storage in the limestone caves with the next planned use to the Texas hill country this coming March. Loren
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