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Old 07-02-2010, 02:59 PM   #21
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I only can second this one!!! Trusting this group very much brought me as far as ordering Cafe Egg sight unseen...
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Old 07-02-2010, 06:04 PM   #22
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Eric

I had to look at the controversy you mentioned at Yahoo and you are right it is not pretty. I have seen things like that at other forums, fortunately good sense often prevails and the forum continues to provide information.

You and Gerda are correct that the members of this forum have a certain decorum about them and keep things in a positive mode. It certainly helps that we have a quality product to talk about.

I can think back to your comments about defects on delivery and made my own mental inventory of what issues I had and it was a positive approach by Tammy and Reace that made things right. That positive approach carries over to the forum and everyone in a self repair mode finds many offers of solutions, these solutions are great because everyone benefits from the problems and descriptions of solutions.

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Old 08-16-2010, 10:33 PM   #23
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Cheesy #3,

I did what I swore I would never do again - make a posting on that board. (Out of some sort of masochistic streak I still read it sometimes.) A new person was asking about Scamp/Casita/Escapes and Escapes were getting bashed as "aerodynamically" inferior to Scamp because Escapes are "boxy". I posted what we have found to be the case for us - that we get essentially the same mpg towing our 17B that we did with our Scamp 16'. I was amazed that someone thought that they could tell aerodynamic efficiency by looking at the trailers. Given the fact that the trailer is being pulled by the tow vehicle and then the 2 essentially become one vehicle aerodynamically there would be so many variables I would not know where to start. Maybe Roger Penske will let me put my Tacoma/Escape combo in his race team wind tunnel.......
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:44 PM   #24
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As to aerodynamics, you will notice that some trailers are pointy at the front in an attempt to reduce wind resistance or at least convince the customer that's what is happening.
You will also notice that aircraft are blunt at the front and tapered to the rear.

And, of course, you have to take into account the tow and the canoe on top.

And, the speed you are traveling at and the terrain, and ...

And, I've found that better mileage is achieved by decreasing pressure on the accelerator, although I find it difficult to follow my own advice.

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Old 08-17-2010, 04:51 PM   #25
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It's great to be rid of all the revits....all potential leaks....and we had a few in the Scamp. By the way the Casita is not a bad trailer, but they too have revits. Enjoy you 17B and if you find yourself in this neighbourhood, look us up.
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:09 PM   #26
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No, the Escape has wood reinforcments integrated into the design (fiberglassed in) to which the innards of the Escape are attached. There are some pictures somewhere in one of the posts that show how it's done. So, no exterior holes in your fiberglass for water to seep in (except around the necessary holes - AC/Maxx fan/bath vent/waste vent). However, Rease has raised the fiberglass around these so the water runs away from these "holes". Great design!
The reference is to the Casita which also has rivits, not the Escape.
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:32 PM   #27
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Toad has ribbets. Ribbit, Ribbit....

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Old 08-17-2010, 07:04 PM   #28
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Toad has ribbets. Ribbit, Ribbit....

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Old 08-20-2010, 12:28 PM   #29
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HokieEscape,
Do I read your post righ that you are saying you have no rivet's in your trailer? Nada, zip, zero, Zilch?

"So, no exterior holes in your fiberglass for water to seep in (except around the necessary holes - AC/Maxx fan/bath vent/waste vent)."

Does the belly seam have screws all the way around the whole perimeter and Don't they penetrate the exterior shell along with all the rivets that penetrate the exterior shell? I have not been to the factory and looked at one under construction.

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Do I read your post righ that you are saying you have no rivet's in your trailer? Nada, zip, zero, Zilch?

"So, no exterior holes in your fiberglass for water to seep in (except around the necessary holes - AC/Maxx fan/bath vent/waste vent)."

Does the belly seam have screws all the way around the whole perimeter and Don't they penetrate the exterior shell along with all the rivets that penetrate the exterior shell? I have not been to the factory and looked at one under construction.
The molded bottom and top are placed on each other and bonded together with fiberglass (or I think that's how they do it) making the Escape a one piece unit. NO, there are no rivits along the belly seam.
Obviously, the trailer is then joined to the frame, and there are holes for the gas line to come in, the waste drains to go out, and on the 5.0 there are holes for the front leveling jacks....but no rivits in the body. There have been pictures on the forum that show all that...but I couldn't tell you how to find them : - (
I do remember Alf referring to a couple of screws somewhere that he had to replace .... pictures of that somewhere too.
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