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03-04-2015, 06:02 PM
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ETI Front Storage Box owners
Those of you who have the front storage box, a simple question: do the hasps accept an ordinary padlock shackle? Not too small an opening? I won't need a "tiny" lock?
KSitte
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03-04-2015, 06:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ksitte
Those of you who have the front storage box, a simple question: do the hasps accept an ordinary padlock shackle? Not too small an opening? I won't need a "tiny" lock?
KSitte
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They use standard locks.
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03-04-2015, 07:27 PM
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I don't know if things have changed over time, but I had to purchase smaller than standard locks for my 2013 21'. I wouldn't consider my locks tiny, but they are certainly smaller then standard in my opinion.
Tom
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03-04-2015, 07:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ksitte
Those of you who have the front storage box, a simple question: do the hasps accept an ordinary padlock shackle? Not too small an opening? I won't need a "tiny" lock?
KSitte
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I ordered these because I wanted a "smaller" lock for cosmetic reasons, and because they're marine grade and solid brass. Got the idea from looking at Cypher's mods. They are 2" tall.
Amazon.com: SeaSense 1 1/4" Padlock: Sports & Outdoors
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03-04-2015, 08:20 PM
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I agree with Tom, certainly smaller than "standard" but still provide some protection.
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03-04-2015, 09:19 PM
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hummm. I think the locks are cosmetic. I've spent a lot of time viewing the insides of the front storage box. The hasps has mounted by fiberglass blocks on the inside. Probably will never be a rot problem.
BUT, give me 30 seconds with a pry bar and I could steal everything inside. Batteries, not so much.. they're heavy. Everything else.. mine. I think the locks are for the owners peace of mind, not for someone that wants what you own.. YMMV
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03-04-2015, 09:26 PM
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Yep, pretty much so but that applies to the trailer door locks as well. These things aren't too secure. If a thief wants it he/she will find a way to get it.
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03-04-2015, 09:33 PM
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Cosmetics are important. I've visual! But honestly a padlock won't really secure the front storage box anymore than a cheap clip. As I've said, it's more about your level of comfort.
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03-04-2015, 09:40 PM
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Ours did not take a standard lock. On our maiden voyage we picked up a lock made for a locker, it had a thinner shank. Wasn't much to it. When we got home Dave drilled the hole a little bigger so it would take a better lock. Doesn't hurt to stop the opportunists walking by.
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03-04-2015, 09:55 PM
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The holes are too small for any of my "small" locks, then I decided I'd not worry about locking the box. If someone really wants what's inside I'd rather they just take it than have them break a $700 box and take $200 worth of stuff.
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03-04-2015, 10:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
hummm. I think the locks are cosmetic. I've spent a lot of time viewing the insides of the front storage box. The hasps has mounted by fiberglass blocks on the inside. Probably will never be a rot problem.
BUT, give me 30 seconds with a pry bar and I could steal everything inside. Batteries, not so much.. they're heavy. Everything else.. mine. I think the locks are for the owners peace of mind, not for someone that wants what you own.. YMMV
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All true. Locks of this type are easily broken. But, the idea of a lock as a visual deterrent for the 'casual thief' is valid. Ask me how I know...
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03-04-2015, 10:19 PM
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I've got a brass padlock on the driver's side of the box, but it has never been locked...
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03-04-2015, 10:22 PM
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I can't imagine how there could be a "standard" size of padlock. There's a defacto standard shape of shackle (the "U" shape), but many sizes. There may be a most common, but I don't know what it would be. Master Lock, for instance, has keyed padlocks with shackle diameters from 5/32" (4 mm) to 5/8" (16 mm), widths from 1.25" (32mm) to 4" (100 mm), and heights from 7.16" (11 mm) to 5-15/16" (150 mm).
The difference between a lock and a clip is that with the lock, obvious force is required, and so the potential thief would be obvious; without a lock, the thief just looks like an owner working on his or her own trailer. In a location where actions will not be observed, the lock just slows the thief down and requires more tools, but that's still useful.
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03-04-2015, 10:29 PM
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Am using a master lock similar to below but a four combo version. Don't use it while towing as the jangling will wear on the paint of the box shackles. $6.00 ea. at Home Depot. Like having the combo instead of toting another key.
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03-04-2015, 10:35 PM
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Very timely.
The lock hasp can have a diameter of up to 1/4 inch. I just purchased a "Master Lock 140T Solid Brass Keyed Alike Padlock with 1-9/16-inch" matching lock set from Amazon. They're keyed alike, brass, more solid than the hasp, less than $10.00, and a pretty good deal.
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03-04-2015, 10:36 PM
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Locks keep honest people honest.....and hopefully to make crooks look elsewhere
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03-04-2015, 10:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OneOleMan
The holes are too small for any of my "small" locks, then I decided I'd not worry about locking the box. If someone really wants what's inside I'd rather they just take it than have them break a $700 box and take $200 worth of stuff.
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I have to LAFF. This is the same thing my mother said about my garage. $2,000 worth of stuff inside and $60,000 worth of stuff outside. But, I reminded her.. a lawnmower was easier to steal than my truck.
Protect your "stuff" to your level of comfort. And, have good insurance
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03-04-2015, 10:45 PM
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Insurance is for the unaffordable loss. So the truck worth $60K is worth the deductible. The stuff I have in the box is essential and a PITA to lose- so I take precautions. It's like Murphy's law: if you have it you probably won't need it.
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03-04-2015, 10:48 PM
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I keep a small lock on one side of the box. The other side has no lock. Just enough security to deter the lazy thieves. Not enough for any real determined efforts though. I don't worry too much about it. Kay Sera sera.
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03-04-2015, 11:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TAfraser
I don't know if things have changed over time, but I had to purchase smaller than standard locks for my 2013 21'. I wouldn't consider my locks tiny, but they are certainly smaller then standard in my opinion.
Tom
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That's interesting. We have the standard padlocks as in those Master locks commonly found, no not small or tiny, standard locker type. But I suppose you could use smaller. You are saying you had to have smaller though so maybe the hasps have changed. But probably we were lucky and bought a bigger lock that just barely fit. Ours have plastic covers so weatherproof and don't think they will mess up the paint. We often leave only one on at a campground.
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