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Old 04-15-2019, 09:32 AM   #1
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External Fridge Fan - My Build Sheet

I've searched and read the topics regarding the external fridge fan.


The problems seeking solution appear to be insufficient cooling. The general consensus is that the external fan is not neded.



My interest in this fan deals with elevated temps that lead to fridge failure.


The previous owner on my 2012 Casita (sold) added a fan and controller that are thermostatically controlled and temporarily turn power off to the fridge if the fan is insufficient to maintain a safe temp.


https://www.arprv.com/


Have any of you experienced fridge failure like this? Do you think the external fan would help ?


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Have any of you encountered fridge failures caused by high temps?
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Old 04-15-2019, 09:37 AM   #2
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I had the fan on my previous 2ndG E19 and never used it, in fact Escape no longer offers it as an option. It can always be added later if needed but I dropped on my current build.
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Old 04-15-2019, 09:52 AM   #3
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I opted for it in my 17' with 4' optional fridge. Since last July I've heard it run a couple of times with factory installation. Of course I may have been in 100 temps.
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I've searched and read the topics regarding the external fridge fan.


The problems seeking solution appear to be insufficient cooling. The general consensus is that the external fan is not neded.



My interest in this fan deals with elevated temps that lead to fridge failure.


The previous owner on my 2012 Casita (sold) added a fan and controller that are thermostatically controlled and temporarily turn power off to the fridge if the fan is insufficient to maintain a safe temp.


https://www.arprv.com/


Have any of you experienced fridge failure like this? Do you think the external fan would help ?


Thanks



Have any of you encountered fridge failures caused by high temps?
I had a 2013 Casita and understand the "why" of the external fridge fan. Casita ignores the recommended installation instructions for the Dometic fridge which causes cooling problems. The Casita forum has multiple threads discussing possible solutions to the bad installation and the attempts to resolve it. Adding the external fan was a patch created to try to mitigate the installation problems. As Casita's are built in Rice Texas, the external fan was nicknamed the "Texas Fan".

Escape installs the Dometic fridge per the installation instructions and DOES NOT NEED AN EXTERNAL FAN. The external fan creates cooling problems for the fridge and has causes fridge failures due to the fan's installation.

I have used the Escape fridge in 117 deg f temps and it worked fine. Granted, I will try to avoid these temps when possible but due to ignorance on my part of the temps that occur in Las Vegas in May, it happened. If the fridge works in those temps, there is no reason to risk the problems that an external fan creates.
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Old 04-15-2019, 10:39 AM   #5
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Back in 2014, the Texas Fan was an option. I got it. There is no on/off switch. It runs off its own thermostat. During my Big Trip, when I was camped for several days and it was flammin' hot, I'd hear the Texas Fan kick on. The frig never once got above 41 degrees. Did that mean the fan worked or wasn't needed? Donno. Now there are different refrigerators and maybe different installation. But IMHO, if you have a 1st Gen trailer and having problems keeping the refrigerator cool, it may be worth looking into installing a fan.
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Back in 2014, the Texas Fan was an option. I got it. There is no on/off switch. It runs off its own thermostat. During my Big Trip, when I was camped for several days and it was flammin' hot, I'd hear the Texas Fan kick on. The frig never once got above 41 degrees. Did that mean the fan worked or wasn't needed? Donno. Now there are different refrigerators and maybe different installation. But IMHO, if you have a 1st Gen trailer and having problems keeping the refrigerator cool, it may be worth looking into installing a fan.
The 1st Gen trailer fridges are somewhat marginal in operation the same as the Casita fridges. You are absolutely right in feeling that they could benefit from some of the mods that are done to the Casita fridges to mitigate the cooling problems.

Reace did a great job of installing the 2017-Current fridges. It's comforting to know that Escape actually read the installation instructions!

I know, I know. It's a guy thing. If all else fails, read the instructions!
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Like Donna, our 2014 19' had the optional fan installed which ran quite a bit when we were in hot temperatures and our refrigerator worked fine (don't remember an on/off switch but, if there was one, we never touched it). I think the fan was more of an issue when the old Dometic refrigerators were used. We opted for one on our 21'; however, with the on/off switch, we now have the option whether to use it or not.
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I had a 2013 Casita and understand the "why" of the external fridge fan. Casita ignores the recommended installation instructions for the Dometic fridge which causes cooling problems. The Casita forum has multiple threads discussing possible solutions to the bad installation and the attempts to resolve it. Adding the external fan was a patch created to try to mitigate the installation problems. As Casita's are built in Rice Texas, the external fan was nicknamed the "Texas Fan".

Escape installs the Dometic fridge per the installation instructions and DOES NOT NEED AN EXTERNAL FAN. The external fan creates cooling problems for the fridge and has causes fridge failures due to the fan's installation.

I have used the Escape fridge in 117 deg f temps and it worked fine. Granted, I will try to avoid these temps when possible but due to ignorance on my part of the temps that occur in Las Vegas in May, it happened. If the fridge works in those temps, there is no reason to risk the problems that an external fan creates.
Dometic has a preferred method of venting the refrigerator which is through the roof but they also list alternative methods of venting ( Trailer Wall)
Casita did not invent the so called “ Texas Fan “ . The fan is an option supplied by Dometic
We have several friends who own new stick built trailers where the refrigerator is vented through the wall and utilizes the Dometic fan
We have the Dometic refrigerator fan on our 2013 Casita SD and. find it quite helpful in maintaing proper temps . The only issue we have is when you travel with the fan on , the motor turns one way electrically and the wind tries to turn it the other , stalling the motor
As you know Casita provides a fan switch inside the trailer for easy access.
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Dometic has a preferred method of venting the refrigerator which is through the roof but they also list alternative methods of venting ( Trailer Wall)
Casita did not invent the so called “ Texas Fan “ . The fan is an option supplied by Dometic
We have several friends who own new stick built trailers where the refrigerator is vented through the wall and utilizes the Dometic fan
We have the Dometic refrigerator fan on our 2013 Casita SD and. find it quite helpful in maintaing proper temps . The only issue we have is when you travel with the fan on , the motor turns one way electrically and the wind tries to turn it the other , stalling the motor
As you know Casita provides a fan switch inside the trailer for easy access.

Hi Steve! From the Dometic installation manual:

Upper and lower side vent application:
  1. Choose this type of installation when a roof vent installation is not possible.
  2. A baffle should be added.
  3. The refrigerator must be equipped with fan(s).

Casita doesn't install a proper baffle - that is something owners sometimes do as a mod - and the fan(s) are an option. The Casita forum guys were doing the fan mod long before Dometic added it to their installation manual as a mandate when the upper and lower side vent installation method was used.

Per the Dometic manual, the upper and lower side vent is not the optimal method to install the Dometic fridge - a correctly dimensioned baffle and fans are required to mitigate the problems created by this installation method. Why install the fridge this way when it can be installed with a roof vent without them?

Oh, if the fridge is installed with a roof vent, the fans are not needed and can cause the fridge to fail.
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