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Old 02-22-2016, 06:11 PM   #31
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This goes into the receiver and is to protect the bumper.
I am referring to having an item that somehow attaches to our adjustable ball mount and protects from damage by it.
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Old 02-22-2016, 06:13 PM   #32
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If you read your Toyota manual, I suspect you will find a note saying NOT to leave the coupler installed when not towing.
I think the reason is the amount of damage that can be done if it gets hit.
I assume you mean ball mount, or WDH head, rather than coupler. I expect that most - perhaps all - manufacturers would say the same.

The hitch bypasses the energy-absorbing components of the bumper system so a sufficiently severe collision risks damage to the vehicle structure. In many cases, the receiver structure bypasses the portion of the vehicle structure which is designed to deform in a collision, increasing the severity of injury to the vehicle's occupants if rear-ended hard enough.

The hassle of heaving a massive WDH head in and out of the receiver is one reason that I have no interest in unnecessarily using WD. I do take the ball mount out between towing trips, and even within the trip if driving around significantly with the trailer left in camp.
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Who says an old dog can learn?
I had a clever response, going something like this:
Maybe the old dog just needs to learn to use an Andersen Greaseless Hardball.
Unfortunately, and inexplicably, it is available only in 1-7/8"... not the 2" needed for an Escape. There are larger diameters but they are available only for the Rapid Hitch, not for a standard ball mount. Also, it wouldn't be suitable for use with Andersen's own No-Sway WD hitch.
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Old 02-22-2016, 06:31 PM   #34
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Yup. Brain freeze. Ball mount.
And your explanation is my understanding also.
Minor bumps concern me as to the receiver mount points.
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I had a clever response, going something like this:
Maybe the old dog just needs to learn to use an Andersen Greaseless Hardball.
How does that lubricate the coupler? Somebody from Andersen drop by with some 30-in-One oil every few weeks?
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By simple Escape issue you mean the Pro Series? If we do get another one that is likely it, having owned it before. Lot less $$ than the Fastway. And I'm the guy who said you usually get what you pay for when talking a year and half ago in respect to the cost of th Andersen. I believe I did say there are exceptions and that was one for us.
Yup, that's the WDI I was referring to, the Pro Series.
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How does that lubricate the coupler? Somebody from Andersen drop by with some 30-in-One oil every few weeks?

The nylon cap of the Andersen Greaseless Hardball allows the ball to slide in the coupler without the need for lubrication, like PFTE (e.g. Teflon™) in a frying pan avoiding the need for cooking oil. Similarly, fifth-wheel hitches are often (especially in RVs) used with a polymer disk (or "lube plate") to avoid the need for grease between the hitch plate and pin box, made of polyethylene or nylon or perhaps even Teflon™.
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I get that the ball is 'lubricated' but that doesn't do anything for the moving parts in the coupler.
And, speaking of stuff not working, why does this site think the word coupler is misspelled?
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I get that the ball is 'lubricated' but that doesn't do anything for the moving parts in the coupler.
While there are moving parts in a coupler, they don't move while towing and need little if any lubrication. The grease in there is usually for the contact between the ball and the coupler's socket. If moving parts in the coupler are the only lubrication concern, there's no need for grease on the ball, and a bit of spray lube (I wouldn't use WD-40 or 3-In-One oil) could be spritzed into the mechanism, perhaps once at the beginning of each trip - I don't think that would make a noticeable mess on the ball.

Where the bars of a conventional WD system seat in the head the force is much higher, and this sort of light lubrication is likely inadequate.
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And, speaking of stuff not working, why does this site think the word coupler is misspelled?
I don't think it's this site - spell checking is more likely done by your browser - but in any case some dictionaries used by spell-checkers do not include the word "coupler". On my computer, in Chrome, I chose the "Add to dictionary" item in the context menu for the "coupler" when it was flagged as a miss-spelling, so it is no longer flagged as an error.
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