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Old 03-15-2014, 06:49 PM   #181
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here are some pictures of new extended stinger and new jack with smaller/removable handle and Fastway coiled emergency cable and new clip on mirrors.
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Old 03-15-2014, 06:51 PM   #182
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note I shortened the chains by 2 links and moved the clevis hooks.
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Old 03-15-2014, 09:37 PM   #183
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It looks like the breakaway cable will not be tight even when the chains are, so the switch will not be triggered unless the chains break. Fine, if that's your intent - I don't recall the conclusion of the extended earlier discussion of this topic.
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Old 03-15-2014, 09:40 PM   #184
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I believe that is the same way as from the factory which was to loop through the cable through the chains. Will not activate unless the chains break.
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Old 03-15-2014, 09:46 PM   #185
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I purchase the coiled Fastway break away switch for my Scamp several years ago. I didn't want to loop or tie the "brake" switch... OMG some folks loop it around the jack. AND, I want the trailer brakes to engage BEFORE the entire trailer is heading south, and the tug is going north... if the trailer is off the ball and the hitch is down on the chains.. THAT's when you need the trailer brakes to engage. NOT when the two items have totally disconnected. YMMV (scary!)
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Old 03-15-2014, 09:47 PM   #186
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I believe that is the same way as from the factory which was to loop through the cable through the chains. Will not activate unless the chains break.
Okay - no problem. Just be sure that the electrical cable is long enough that it won't pull out when the trailer is attached only by the taut chains... it would be bad to lose brake control (due to the cable pulling out) and not have the breakaway switch engage.
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Old 03-15-2014, 10:04 PM   #187
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I purchase the coiled Fastway break away switch for my Scamp several years ago. I didn't want to loop or tie the "brake" switch... OMG some folks loop it around the jack. AND, I want the trailer brakes to engage BEFORE the entire trailer is heading south, and the tug is going north... if the trailer is off the ball and the hitch is down on the chains.. THAT's when you need the trailer brakes to engage. NOT when the two items have totally disconnected. YMMV (scary!)
Donna, could you please post of picture of your set up showing the Fastway? I got the shortest set up which is 48". Maybe the switch needs to be moved back?
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Old 03-15-2014, 10:16 PM   #188
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Jm, I've looked at your pics.. that the way it should be set up. As SOON as the hitch falls off the ball and lays in the cradle of the chains... THAT's when you want the brakes to engage on the trailer. NOT when the tug and tow are both totally disconnected. I think that's what the documentation from Fastway says.

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Old 03-15-2014, 10:18 PM   #189
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If the safety chains fail the breakaway brake switch is considered the last line of defense against a runaway trailer.
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:15 PM   #190
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In the earlier discussion it became apparent that there were different approaches to when the breakaway switch should trigger, but I think clearly it must trigger before the electrical cable comes out, if the electrical cable comes out while the chains are still intact. Whether it triggers within the reach of the chains or only after the chains fail is the topic of debate.

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I got the shortest set up which is 48". Maybe the switch needs to be moved back?
I'm surprised it's that short: it looks like about two feet as installed, and it looks like it can go more than twice that length, but that's only a rough visual guess. In any case, if the trailer is unhitched but left with the chains connected, and pulled back from the tug, does the breakaway cable length stretch to more than four feet? If not, the switch won't be pulled.

I would hesitate to move the switch, because you would then risk the cable getting snagged in all the other hardware (especially with the Anderson No-Sway chains) and not pulling out of the switch.

Fastway's cable installation instructions say nothing about length. The instructions for installation complete with switch refer to placing the switch, and still say nothing about cable length or arranging when it is triggered. They may assume that it is only for when the trailer becomes completely separated, including failure of the chains.

The Zip cable comes in only two lengths (4' and 6'), but it could be made shorter. My guess is that most people will likely not want to deal with crimping or clamping fittings on the cable to do that.
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