Ford F-150 Recall

[Donna D.]

The affected models include some of the model year 2015, 2016 and 2017 F-150's, as well as some 2017 Super Duty pickups. The recall includes trucks sold in the United States, Canada and Mexico.

Ford recalling 1.3 million F-series pickups - Oct. 18, 2017

[thoer]

Those recalls are great. Keep a vehicle long enough and the manufacturers replace darn near everything sooner or later.

[cpaharley2008]

I also saw where Tesla is recalling all their "X" vehicles, they seem to be on their last breath supposedly.

[thiggins]

"It's Time For Tesla To Stop Paying SolarCity's Debts"

https://seekingalpha.com/article/411...larcitys-debts

[rbryan4]

I got an email concerning this today. The issue appears to be the door latch freezing in cold weather. The "fix" is apparently the addition of a "water shield" on the door latch, and inspection and possible replacement of the actuator cable if deemed necessary.

There aren't any reported accident or injuries related to the latch, so it's considered a lower priority field service action - although I assume it would be a high priority to owners who live in sub freezing areas.

[Brian B-P]

It is not uncommon to recall all units of a model which has only been in production for two years. Although there have been two recalls for the Model X, even that doesn't seem exceptional to me. The parking brake problem (the first recall) is in a part supplied by one of the world's best automotive brake suppliers (Brembo) and is not unique to the Tesla design; the repair cost won't be high as recalls go (minimal labour, parts likely provided by Brembo). The seat problem (the second recall, and mentioned in the linked article) is a more typical Tesla error.

For comparison, that F-150 recall is only one of four recalls for a typical 2016 F-150, and the door handle issue covers the entire current generation of F-150.

Each of these recalls have a description which sounds like it affects a huge number, potentially affects a smaller number of vehicles, and correspond to an actual defect in only a tiny fraction of them.

[D&R_SC]

Thanks for turning an F150 discussing into a Tesla discussion, which has little relevance to most Escape owners.

[Dave Walter]

Originally Posted by D&R_MA

Thanks for turning an F150 discussing into a Tesla discussion, which has little relevance to most Escape owners.

A forum thread is like a winding mountain road. It may seem that it has gone in the wrong direction, but if you wait long enough, sometimes you will find that you are back on track and going where you want to go.

The F150 is definitely a very popular truck, so there must be many people who are happy with theirs. This seems to be supported by the relatively few recalls that have been issued on the latest models. I know that I have probably received twenty recall notices on a Chevrolet product that we bought new in 2010 (and I highly doubt that I would ever buy another)

[thoer]

Originally Posted by Dave Walter

A forum thread is like a winding mountain road. It may seem that it has gone in the wrong direction, but if you wait long enough, sometimes you will find that you are back on track and going where you want to go.
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And, of course, the natural conclusion point for every thread is.....poutine!

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by thiggins

"It's Time For Tesla To Stop Paying SolarCity's Debts"

https://seekingalpha.com/article/411...larcitys-debts

I have a new F150. Please help me understand how this article relates to the Ford recall; I'm trying to make sure I stay on top of this issue. Thanks.

[escape artist]

Originally Posted by thoer

And, of course, the natural conclusion point for every thread is.....poutine!

Hi: thoer... I recall that Carbone Nissan in Utica NY. re-calibrated my air bag sensors after replacing the window regulator that refused to budge. They said they checked and it had not been done. Maybe we don't have as many wind bags in Canada!!!
We all know "Poutine" is, after all, a Canadian dish!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

[gbaglo]

Originally Posted by Zardoz

I have a new F150. Please help me understand how this article relates to the Ford recall; I'm trying to make sure I stay on top of this issue. Thanks.

No point reading beyond the link provided in Post #1 then.

[Brian B-P]

A recall has little relevance to anyone except owners of the affected vehicle, and those owners are contacted directly by the manufacturer (and their vehicle is checked when they bring it to any dealer for any work), so a forum discussion isn't needed at all.

A forum thread about a recall can be a heads-up to owners who might have been missed, but as baglo said that's accomplished in the first post, so any other posts can be ignored by someone who has very narrow interests. Otherwise, the thread is just a conversation about recalls, with a specific example... it can go where the participants want it to go.

[Brian B-P]

For anyone specifically interested in F-150 door latch issues, I suggest using the NHTSA recall database (which I linked to earlier), or the corresponding Transport Canada database. Both agencies publish factual information (rather than the poorly paraphrased descriptions of news reports and unfounded speculation of rumours), with supporting documents. Also, make sure you are registered with Ford as the owner of your vehicle, ensuring that you get authoritative information, as Robert mentioned.

It appears that the recall just announced as news by CNN Money might refer to the combination of several actual safety recalls of the F-150 according to NHTSA which have been out for months; NHTSA campaign 17V331000 (for instance) refers to the covers which Robert described. I don't see any door handle recalls among the twelve listed for the 2015-2017 F-150 in Canada, so either the Canadian recall is behind the U.S. recall (which is common) or perhaps the problem is only with a trim piece which was not offered in Canada.

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by rbryan4

There aren't any reported accident or injuries related to the latch, so it's considered a lower priority field service action - although I assume it would be a high priority to owners who live in sub freezing areas.

This is a good point: a manufacturer often offers a fix for something which may not work as intended, without a mandated safety recall. Toyota calls these "service campaigns", and other manufacturers use similar terms.

If the issue actually causes a problem for an owner, they are expected to take it to a dealer, who would then offer the fix even if the owner was not aware of the campaign. Most vehicles are not affected (it is common to run campaigns for issues that only cause problems in one percent of the potentially affected units) and so for most people it doesn't matter whether they hear about it or not.

This does reinforce the importance of asking a dealer about anything which doesn't work as it should, even if you don't expect it to be covered by warranty or a recall, since there may be a fix already worked out and offered to you.

I went to a Honda parts department a decade ago to buy some ignition parts for our CRX because it would start from cold fine but stop running later; the parts guy asked why I wanted the parts, asked if I had the ignition module replaced (we had not) and arranged for service to replace it. The module was the problem and we had missed the notification because we were second owners (unknown to Honda).

[Red Dog]

Thanks for posting this. I think my 2014 Ford F-150 Supercrew is safe, but I will stay on top of this story.

Regards,



Fred M.

[War Eagle]

Originally Posted by Brian B-P

For anyone specifically interested in F-150 door latch issues, I suggest using the NHTSA recall database (which I linked to earlier), ...

I just checked my 2016 F-150's VIN on that website, and as of now, it shows "0" recalls on my truck. Do you suppose that is it, or is Ford still sorting through all this?

[D&R_SC]

You can check; https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...per-duty-.html

It looks like it only applies to super duty trucks.

[rbryan4]

Originally Posted by D&R_MA

You can check; https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...per-duty-.html

It looks like it only applies to super duty trucks.

That's incorrect. It applies to some F150s (mine included) AND some Super Dutys.

[sclifrickson]

Our F-150 is on the list [emoji58]