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Old 03-06-2019, 11:32 AM   #1
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Framed windows?

For those of you that got the standard framed windows that come on the 19, do you like them? Do you wish you had purchased the frameless windows? Our build sheet is due next week and this has been an ongoing discussion for quite awhile. Keep in mind we live in Florida, so we won't be camping in below freezing temps! Any advice or opinion welcome.
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Old 03-06-2019, 11:46 AM   #2
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We have framed windows on our 19 and opted for framed on our 5.0 to be delivered this summer. We like them and have had no problems. They are simple to operate and we like the cross ventilation we get when fully opened. We live in Texas so we are in a moderate climate as well. We get no rain inside on the passengers side when to awning is open even a bit.
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Old 03-06-2019, 12:05 PM   #3
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There are a couple of differences between the two. Frameless allows use in the rain. Frameless also gives you opening rear windows. Framed or sliders cost less as they are standard on the Escape.
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Old 03-06-2019, 12:28 PM   #4
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Framed windows will not give you any problems, Iike coming apart . Great ventilation. Never keen on huge opening windows in our 19 bed area . Your choice though . Sometimes the old tried and true works with less issues . Pat
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Old 03-06-2019, 12:48 PM   #5
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Beware (Murphy's Law) the bane of unintended consequences. I think those new unframed awning style windows seemed like a good idea when they first appeared, mostly because they looked so upscale-modern. The trade-off was you sacrificed a stoggier, tried and true window apparatus for one looking more cool that also kept rain out. Ah, but then design flaws reigned in much of the excitement.
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Old 03-06-2019, 03:48 PM   #6
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I've never personally been a fan of the frameless windows on any trailer and glad I have the "classic 19."
On all our trailers we've never really had a problem with rain coming in the sliders, but we don't get much practice with that in AZ
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Windows are something we don't have to think about with the 2015 model. They just work.
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Old 03-06-2019, 07:33 PM   #8
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Function over form for this camper...too much required maintenance as there is to chance problems with a system (frameless) that has shown itself to be problematic- both with separation issues as well as with the crank mechanism. The only problem you see with framed thermal is a rare fogging issue. Think I've seen that reported here three times since 2013.
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Old 03-06-2019, 08:05 PM   #9
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Function over form for this camper...too much required maintenance as there is to chance problems with a system (frameless) that has shown itself to be problematic- both with separation issues as well as with the crank mechanism. The only problem you see with framed thermal is a rare fogging issue. Think I've seen that reported here three times since 2013.

When (I checked with the folks up in Hudson Fl about window repair if mine were to fail they said the majority of the windows they rebuild are the framed ones with condensation inside caused by seal failure.

The frameless styles were not failing as often. He said the condensation sometimes etched the surface of the glass on the framed styles when the owner took their time having them fixed.

Which made me feel better about having them as they were not time bombs waiting to fail and can be fixed for a reasonable cost if they did fail. With a longer warranty to boot.

So if in the future I were to go for another Escape trailer having the frameless awning windows would not be a concern.
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Old 03-06-2019, 09:03 PM   #10
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We have the frame-less windows in our 2017 19' and like them. We do keep them open during rain. The non frame-less front window is the only window we really have condensation issues with in cold weather. But we have found if we leave the two front side windows slightly open with the fan on low there is very little condensation.
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