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Old 09-06-2019, 08:16 AM   #1
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Full size suv you recommend?

Hello All,
OK there have been some threads on this but they seem to more recommend trucks and that is not an option for us. We bought our 21' Escape for when our grand kids go, add two dogs and us a truck will not work.
I love my 2012 Pathfinder but at 225,000 miles starting to have some issues so makes me worry about towing far from home. I have on order (Carvana) a 2015 Armada with 53,000 miles but now after reading some reviews questioning if I want an Armada.

I know many of you tow with 5,000 lb like Highlanders and Pilots but just not sure I like the ratio. Also I would like to stay under $35,000 if that's possible really less then that. This Armada is only $23,000 out the door but again starting to wonder if a good vehicle or not. Have had good luck with Pathfinders so why I looked at the Armada but cannot find a Pathfinder that fits the need (would need to be 2010-2012).

I value the opinions I read on this forum so THANKS in advance for any thoughts you provide.

Enjoy the journey.

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Old 09-06-2019, 08:46 AM   #2
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The new Pathfinder is 6,000 lbs but the rest are at the 5,000 lb limit, Ascent,Palisade,Ridgeline.
The Jeep GC models go a little higher but so do the prices.
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Old 09-06-2019, 10:51 AM   #3
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tow car

Be sure what ever tow vehicle you pick has a trailer tow option factory installed. These typically include the hitch and wiring but also brake controller and oil coolers. I think it best to not be too close to your max towing rate. Going up hill at near max load can be very slow. I like to be no more that 70% load to load rating ratio. So a tow vehicle with a rating of 5000 lb would be no more than 3500 lb total trailer load. That's the way I do it. Hope that helps.
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Look at the Toyota/ Lexus body-on-frame SUVs with V8s, i.e., the Sequoia, GX 460/470, and Land Cruiser/LX 570. All of those have relatively high tow capacities and could handle a 21 with no issue. Used prices are relatively high, but there’s a reason for that. Great vehicles.
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also the ford expedition and chevy tahoe are good choices. both of these are based on a shortened pickup truck chassis and drive train. both are excellent at towing, if equipped with the factory tow packages..
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We use a Chevy Tahoe w/max tow package to tow our 2019 19' Escape. Does a great job. Not sure of used prices but new is well above your $35k target.
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nowdays $35K new will get you an econobox, not much more.
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For about $38,000 you can get a 2020 Hyundai Palisade SEL with convenience package, sunroof, air suspension, and electronics. It tows 5000 lbs and had 10 year warranty.
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I have been fairly accused of being a bit of a fanatic, but I would choose a 10-year old Land Cruiser over any of these other options, used or new.
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Leaving tomorrow for UT/CO in the new Expedition, having previously towed with Yukon- pretty much same as Tahoe. Have my hanky ready as I remember reading how Reace had tears of joy when going to F150 EcoBoost. 420 ft. lbs. of torque sounds great!

OP- I see 2015 & 2016 Expeditions in your price range and 2015 is when they went with EcoBoost.
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Shoot- ran outta time to edit. Actually the torque spec for Expy is 380 @ 2250 rpm. My '13 Yukon 5.3 is 335@ 4000 rpm.
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I have been fairly accused of being a bit of a fanatic, but I would choose a 10-year old Land Cruiser over any of these other options, used or new.
pretty sure the Lexus LX *is* a Land Cruiser, in upscale trim. The Lexus GX is the smaller Land Cruiser Prado, again wearing a party dress. The 4Runner has a lot in common with the LC Prado, too. The current LC also has a lot in common with the Tundra, from which the Sequoia SUV is derived.
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pretty sure the Lexus LX *is* a Land Cruiser, in upscale trim. The Lexus GX is the smaller Land Cruiser Prado, again wearing a party dress. The 4Runner has a lot in common with the LC Prado, too. The current LC also has a lot in common with the Tundra, from which the Sequoia SUV is derived.
Exactly right. By “Land Cruiser” I meant both the Toyota and Lexus variants. The LX can often be had for a bit less $$ than the Land Cruiser on the used market, making it the better deal.
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OTOH, all that luxo stuff in the LX makes it a big heavy lumbering beast with suspension tuned for comfort rather than hauling or offroading. they also get awful gas mileage.
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Dodge Durango? Don't know much about them.
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Dodge Durango? Don't know much about them.

All I know about the Durango is that instead of clearance, it has a nifty looking dam below the front bumper. My son-in-law knocked it off our rental. Couple thousand dollars damage I figure. Good thing he rented it on his credit card and was covered.
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Hi Steve,

We (make that I as I do most of the driving) love towing our 21 with our 2014 Toyota Sequoia.

Our prior tow was a Volvo XC90. The Volvo could do the job but I would feel it start to drag a bit in in the hills so much that I was never comfortable 100%.

With the Sequoia its towing capacity is more then that required to tow the 21 ... Also with 3 kids the extra seat room on the longer trips allows for a little more elbow room in the back.


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OTOH, all that luxo stuff in the LX makes it a big heavy lumbering beast with suspension tuned for comfort rather than hauling or offroading. they also get awful gas mileage.
The awful gas mileage seems to be fairly universal across the Toyota V8s. Decent power, great reliability, atrocious efficiency.
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The awful gas mileage seems to be fairly universal across the Toyota V8s. Decent power, great reliability, atrocious efficiency.
That pretty much sums it up. That being said, we love our V8 Toyota 4Runner. We have towed our 21 up and down the west coast and all the way around the US. Comfortable to ride in and solid as a rock. Really we get about the same gas mileage as most folks do towing. Wish it did better around town though. We have 140k and expect to get that much more but if we ever have to replace it I think we'd be looking at the Sequoia. The Lexus is a little too spendy. Good luck!
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I had a 2009 Ram 5.7 Hemi with a 5 speed automatic, 3:55 rear, got 12 mpg towing or not. Plenty of power with but dismal mpg. Traded in for a 5.7 Hemi with a 8 speed auto, 3:21 rear, made a world of difference. Can achieve 20 mpg empty and 15 towing. I believe the Toyota have not upgraded their auto multispeed transmissions similar to Ford and Chrysler.
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