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Old 01-14-2015, 11:29 PM   #11
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Are there different probes for black and gray? Doesn't make sense to me if there are.
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Old 01-14-2015, 11:32 PM   #12
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Their website shows different units for black and grey
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Old 01-14-2015, 11:42 PM   #13
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I really don't understand why they don't offer this as an option and stock them but I guess that is their choice.
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Probably because very few people want to pay extra for what the product promises. Managing inventory is just one element in a successful business.
The one sensor I could do without is the black tank. I can see the level by simply opening the flush trap. I've never actually filled the grey tank, but I do like to keep an eye on the fresh water. Basically, it's not worth it to me.
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Are there different probes for black and gray? Doesn't make sense to me if there are.
Yes, they're a slightly different design because one is designed for liquids and the other for liquids and solids. The liquid (grey water) probes are thin stiff wire with a flat end, and your grey water doesn't stick to them. The ones for the black tank have a different wire, which looks like the center core of coaxial cable, and a Teflon shield over the top (like a hood) to protect the wire from having solids accumulate on it.
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Old 01-15-2015, 12:03 AM   #16
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Yes, they're a slightly different design because one is designed for liquids and the other for liquids and solids. The liquid (grey water) probes are thin stiff wire with a flat end, and your grey water doesn't stick to them. The ones for the black tank have a different wire, which looks like the center core of coaxial cable, and a Teflon shield over the top (like a hood) to protect the wire from having solids accumulate on it.
As a seller, I wouldn't futz with two types; hard to imagine the profit difference justifies managing the additional inventory when black probes would work fine in gray tanks - and the price would probably be less with more volume in one product type instead of two.
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I read the post to suggest that ETI should stock the probes, which I would not expect them to do. I would expect the manufacturer of the probes to stock them. Why else be in business?
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Their general lack of availability and high cost are good reasons not to bother. But I'm kinda stubborn and when I am sold on a product I will often do the irrational and reactionary thing and get them anyway. here is a small photo of the difference between the two:
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On ours the black tank seems to be inside the trailer body, under the toilet and closet, is there still access to it from underneath? With the foam I can't see anything.
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If I were going to the trouble of installing a specific type of probe, I can't imagine using anything other than the correct probe type for the tank. Black and grey are different enough situations that the design difference seems justified to me, and I would put the right one in.

Standard probes work so poorly for me (in two different RVs) that I would want better. As a retrofit the Horst probes make sense, but I would rather have (but might not be willing to pay for) something like the See-Level system (which is a different meter/display as well, not just probes).

The grey tank is underneath, but the black tank is entirely above the trailer floor, and not at all accessible from underneath - the foam is not relevant to the black tank. Access details depend on the model/floorplan.
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