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Old 03-31-2015, 08:40 PM   #31
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When I tried to hitch up today, using my regular hitch, I couldn't get the jack up far enough to remove the blocks under the jack post. I had to install the WDH, which is higher than the regular hitch, to remove the blocks.
I think the easiest thing to do is use Linx blocks and a bottle jack to raise the nose enough to insert the wheel.
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When I tried to hitch up today, using my regular hitch, I couldn't get the jack up far enough to remove the blocks under the jack post. I had to install the WDH, which is higher than the regular hitch, to remove the blocks.
I think the easiest thing to do is use Linx blocks and a bottle jack to raise the nose enough to insert the wheel.
Here is a trick that I have used when you cannot lift the front of the trailer high enough with the jack to clear the hitch. Jack the trailer up as high as it will go. Put down the front stabilizers on the Escape. Back off the jack enough to fit another block below the jack post. Add another block and jack up the front end. Raise your front stabilizers, hitch up your car, and you are good to go.
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Old 03-31-2015, 09:17 PM   #33
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That's a plan. As long as they hold up.
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Old 03-31-2015, 11:49 PM   #34
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I subsequently found, however, that leaving the swivel wheel attached when towing put the jack too close to the pavement. If ever De-hitched in transit (yes it happened to me) the tongue cup could not nest in the safety chains.
I think this is a common problem, and occurs with tow vehicles (such as mine) that have a relatively low hitch receiver (and thus low safety chain loops) and higher trailer tongue - essentially, anyone who needs a significant rise (rather than drop) in the ball mount.
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Here is a trick that I have used when you cannot lift the front of the trailer high enough with the jack to clear the hitch. Jack the trailer up as high as it will go. Put down the front stabilizers on the Escape. Back off the jack enough to fit another block below the jack post. Add another block and jack up the front end. Raise your front stabilizers, hitch up your car, and you are good to go.
Sounds like a good plan to me. I would certainly do this with my current (non-Escape) trailer, but it doesn't have front stabilizers (only rear, which I added).

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That's a plan. As long as they hold up.
I'm sure the front stabilizers will hold up, since they're all rated higher than required for this purpose. Are Escape front stabilizers the same BAL C-Jacks as the rear stabilizers? Those are rated to hold the whole weight of the trailer - just the front is nothing for them.
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Old 04-01-2015, 12:18 AM   #36
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They are not jacks, as ETI often repeats. They are stabilizers, only intended to keep the trailer from rocking when somebody is moving about inside.
They might hold up, briefly, if used to support the front of the trailer ( most weight being on the wheels - of my single axle ).
It might work, but then it might fail on you.
Only speaking for my trailer.
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They are not jacks, as ETI often repeats. They are stabilizers, only intended to keep the trailer from rocking when somebody is moving about inside.
They are not intended by Escape Trailer Industries to be used as lifting jacks, but the suggested method does not lift with them, only holds static load. Besides, they are jacks, used to prevent vertical motion by supporting load and thus stabilizing the trailer.

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They might hold up, briefly, if used to support the front of the trailer ( most weight being on the wheels - of my single axle ).
It might work, but then it might fail on you.
The C-Jack is rated by the manufacturer to holds thousands of pounds - much more than needed. They are rated far higher than typical tongue jacks on light trailers. They are also described by BAL as "fine leveling" jacks, which means they're even good for cranking them to raise the trailer (not lifting the wheels off the ground) to adjust the level while carrying load. If these jacks collapse holding up the front of the trailer without the tongue jack, they are clearly defective.

If the front jacks are 3/4 of the way from axle to coupler, they will need to support 4/3 of the tongue weight if nothing is supporting the tongue. That's a few hundred pounds at most... and there are two jacks.

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Only speaking for my trailer.
Perhaps Baglo's trailer has some other model, but even the wimpiest stabilizing (not leveling) jack can safely hold much more than the tongue weight of an Escape. In the BAL line, the lightest are the Light Trailer Stabilizing Jack (the model I put on my current trailer), which can lift 1400 pounds per pair and support a full ton per pair... four times the capacity needed for an Escape 17'.
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Old 04-01-2015, 12:42 AM   #38
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Mine cannot be used to lift the trailer.
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While I don't recommend using the stabilizer "jacks" to level an Escape 17 (I believe the reason given by Escape is the possibility of bending the frame), in my case it doesn't matter; I cannot turn the crank enough to actually lift the trailer more than a 1/2" or so unless I put some kind of extension on the handle (or used a hammer drill) so it isn't going to happen.
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The method I suggested does not "lift" the front of the trailer with the stabilizers, you simply snug the stabilizers down to the ground, and then release the weight off the front jack. As Brian mentioned, the jacks are designed to support much more weight than the proportion of tongue weight carried during this approach.

I suggested this approach to solve Gbaglo's problem where he had to switch hitches on his tow vehicle to hook up his Escape. Presumably, he would switch hitches, hook up, move to a level spot, unhook, switch hitches, and continue towing. With this simple and pretty low risk approach you can greatly streamline that process.
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