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Old 02-02-2014, 01:34 PM   #51
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Educating yourself as a consumer is the good policy whether it's purchasing propane or food products. Leaving the sole responsibility to our government or some other entity is irresponsible on our own parts. Buyer beware has been around for long time.
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Old 02-02-2014, 03:51 PM   #52
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I took the exchange sleeve off and I am good to go for another 12 years.
Taking that plastic label sleeve off is a good idea anyway. Although it protects the tanks from paint damage during handling in the exchange process, it can hold water against the tank in use and accelerate unseen corrosion.

Even if you want to exchange again, some exchange systems (including Blue Rhino) do not require that the old tank be one of theirs, so it the label is not needed. Individual exchange system practices may vary, and there may be a cost benefit if the tank turned in is identifiable as one of theirs.
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Old 02-04-2014, 10:42 PM   #53
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I went out to my propane supplier today on an unrelated mission but took the time to ask about the under filling of the 5-gallon propane tanks. He said that filling them only to fifteen pounds is just a bunch of hooey and that they’re rated to twenty pounds regardless of temperature. So my opinion is that full exchange tanks have gone the way of a quart of mayo (now 30 ounces) and a half-gallon of ice cream (now 1.75 quarts).
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Old 02-06-2014, 05:48 PM   #54
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Educating yourself as a consumer is the good policy...
I'll second that emotion.

Took my 20 pounder into town to get refilled at a propane station. Wanted that topped-off, full twenty pounds. The one I found, part of a gasoline station, has fenced off propane area, fairly big storage tank, and a scale for weighing the tank. Looked good to me. Just for drill, I asked, how much to fill my 20 pounder. Nearly swallowed my gum when she said, "sixty-one bucks!"

I recovered quickly... "Ah, thanks ma'am, but maybe some other time" and got out of there fast.

Just got home after a detour to nearby WaLMart. Exchanged that 20 pounder with their on-site, caged 20 pounder yes, containing 15 pounds. Cost: $20.41.
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Old 02-06-2014, 06:42 PM   #55
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We are currently charging $19.95 for a 20# tank. one month ago the price was $11.95. We currently have 10,000 gal bought and are lucky to get 1,000 gal delived in a weeks time. Our company feels like they should take care of the home owner first until this weather turns around.
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Old 02-06-2014, 06:44 PM   #56
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... I asked, how much to fill my 20 pounder. Nearly swallowed my gum when she said, "sixty-one bucks!"...
Yes, knowing what's reasonable is valuable. Currently, around here, sixty bucks will get you a 3/4-filled tank from an exchange place... without providing an empty tank (in other words, an outright purchase of the propane plus the tank, not an exchange). A fill at Costco (consistently the cheapest flat-rate fill location, but only one of about half a dozen area Costco locations has propane) has been $12 to more than $20 over the last couple of years... I'm not sure what it is today. Yes, Costco puts the whole 20 pounds (9 kg) in the tank, while area exchangers put in 7.7 kg (17 pounds) or less, currently for about $25.

For rough checks of reasonableness, there are online price-tracking sources, such as as the U.S. Energy Information Administration and similar Canadian sources.

I sometimes use Gas Buddy (via their BlackBerry, Android, or iOS app) to check gasoline pricing; unfortunately, I am not aware of a good equivalent for propane.
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Propane is extremely tight right now. The tanks at my cabin were just filled at $2.80 per gallon; last October it was $1.80 per gallon. For two 500-gallon tanks, that's quite a hit.
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Old 02-06-2014, 07:00 PM   #58
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Just got a bill for filling my home tank. $5.99/gal here in RI.
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Old 02-06-2014, 07:27 PM   #59
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Just for fun, here are the recent prices mentioned in this thread (linked to the source posts):
US$18 for 15lb exchange
US$18 for 15 lb exchange
US$20.41 for 15 lb exchange
CDN$25 for 7.7 kg (17 lb) exchange
US$2.80/USgal (about US$0.68/lb) in bulk, delivered
US$5.99/USgal (about US$1.46/lb) in bulk, delivered

Other than Karen's cheap propane in Washington, is there really enough price difference - even between the extreme low of bulk and the extreme high of exchange tanks - to matter much in travel trailer use? Is even the highest really that much of a concern? "Normal" prices are not that much lower - less than US$0.50 per pound in bulk, delivered. Obviously, that's a personal judgement.
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Old 02-06-2014, 08:22 PM   #60
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There are people in our area that gravity fill there 20# tanks off their home tanks. Not that hard to do if you have the know how. The going price to fill motor home is $4.50 gal in our area.
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