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Old 11-28-2018, 11:53 PM   #1
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My new 2019 E-21 build list countdown!

We are getting close to finalizing our build sheet, and December 13 is our confirmation deadline date. Some of these options are picked from a few (most) of the fine forum members. Jim, amongst others, you will see a few of your items here. Now the excitement is growing.
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Microwave (Built into Cabinet)
2 - Way Hot Water Tank (Propane & 120V)
Foot Flush Toilet
Winterizing T-Valve
Dual 6V Batteries (225 amp hrs)
170W Solar Panel with Charge Controller
Surge Protector
Removable Power Cord
Power Awning (Dometic 9500E)
LED Awning Light Strip
Air Conditioner with Digital Thermostat (11,000 BTU Dometic)
Wireless Back - Up Camera (Display Monitor wired with 12V Plug)
Jack' TV Antenna (Includes TV Ready with 120V)
Extra Insulation & Frame-less Thermal Windows (Includes Opening Rear Window)
Opening Window in Bathroom (Frame-less Thermal)
Aluminum Rim Package (Includes 5 Aluminum Rims)
Power Tongue Jack
Exterior Propane Quick Connect with 12' Propane Hose and Adapter (Low Pressure)
Spray Foam Insulation for Under Trailer
Additional Cabinet Door under Bed beside Bathroom Door
Storage Box (Front of Trailer)
Convert Bench Seat to U Shaped Dinette
3- AMBER LENS ON 1) Porch Light 2) DS Exterior Light 3) Front Additional Light
MOVE Porch light to 18.75" below Belly Band 2.5" from door frame to edge of light.
CUT Corners of Dinette table back corners to match the front.
DO NOT DRILL hole in sink cover
HEAT STRIP on A/C
REINFORCE W6
Exterior shower Driver and Passenger Side
Exterior Access Hatch Rear Driver Side and Rear Passenger Side
DO NOT INSTALL TABLE OR HARWARE Give to CX @ Orientation
INSTALL CX Provided Sink Houzer Quartztone Midnite Black E-100 w/basket Shipped
19NOV18 - MW Rec'd Basket w/strainer 21NOV18 MW Rec'd Sink 27NOV18 MW
1- Exterior 12V/USB Outlet ($75.00 each) Left hand side of 120V
2- ADDITIONAL 12V/USB Interior Outlet ($75.00 each) 1) PS O/H cabinet b/s bathroom picture in file 2) DS O/H cabinet corner by W2
1- ADDITIONAL Exterior LED Light ($75/each) front Middle 3" above belly band
4- ADDITIONAL LED Captains Reading Lamps ($40/each) 1) CRL#1 2) CRL#2 3)
CRL#3 4) CRL#4
4- Counter Extension ($85/each) 1) D/S W2 16" above bench 2) P/S W1 16" above bench 3) Bed area, W6 12" back from font corner of bathroom 23" above bed base. 4) End of kitchen ctr b/s sink
1- Shelves in Wardrobe Closet ($75/each) 19" from bottom of wardrobe to bottom of shelf
Customer Provided - Custom Flooring (12' x 13') Olson Floors Weathered Wall 00944
Please note there will be a seam under the bed. EchoSign Sent
Custom Formica 3692-58 Labrador Granite
Trim Color: BLACK
Custom Fabric Sunbrella Linen
Stone 8319 54". VERTICAL Rec'd 21NOV18 MW Full Wrap on Cushions with Custom Fabric.
Graphic Color: Silver
2 - Filled Propane Tanks (Included with Starter Kit)
Customer Supplied Umbra Hooks (Install Only at Orientation)
E2 by FastWay Integrated Sway Control and Weight Distribution Hitch *Not Compatible with vehicles that have an Air Leveling Suspension System
Extendable Wall Mount TV Arm (For 15" - 22" TVs)
Interior Fridge Fan
Deluxe Sewer Tube Kit (Includes Adapter)
Sand Pads (Set of 4)
Step Cover
Trailer Cover
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Old 11-29-2018, 07:46 AM   #2
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Very thorough and precise, did Escape get back to you re: power pedestal? I'm not seeing additional 120v outlets, just 12v?
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Old 11-29-2018, 09:20 AM   #3
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That's quite a list. It makes it difficult to comment on anything you might have considered, but haven't opted for. Anything on such a list?

One of our most useful 120volt locations for us is near the entrance door where we specified that one to be below the height of the counter extension, so you can get to it without having to flip up the counter extension.

Have you considered the AGM 6 volt battery choice? A few have opted for this to avoid the somewhat frequent distilled water needs of the standard batteries. Our standard batteries have performed very well over our four years, but I will consider AGM when the current ones need to be replaced.
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Old 11-29-2018, 09:22 AM   #4
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Very nice, Trent!
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Old 11-29-2018, 11:12 AM   #5
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Very thorough and precise, did Escape get back to you re: power pedestal? I'm not seeing additional 120v outlets, just 12v?
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You should recognize some of it, a bit is from your list. Hoho (haha after Christmas).

Not yet. My email was sent last night. Will call them later to confirm.
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Of concern is;
My Jeep Grand Cherokee has REAR LOAD LEVELING SUSPENSION, and Jeep requires WDH for trailers over 3500 pounds. For the E2 WDH’s, ETI buildsheets state: *Not Compatible with vehicles that have an Air Leveling Suspension System
So it’s needed, but not possible?
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If I did over again I would not have them put in the winterizing kit, but instead buy aftermarket and install the kit at the pickup tube at the bottom of fresh water tank. Another member on the forum did this and now can fill system with RV antifreeze from the outside. It also eliminates the issue of water sitting at the bottom of pickup tube.

Looked for the thread where this was done, but could not find.

On another note, if you get the winterizing kit make sure at orientation the hose they install is long enough to reach outside the bench seat and reach the bottom of 1 gallon jug. Mine was too short and had to add connector and hose to make it work.

I will be installing the aftermarket winterizing kit at the bottom of water tank and keep this job on the outside.
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I would verify if you're actually getting a sink cover since you're getting custom countertop. When we got our trailer 2 years ago I was surprised NOT to get the sink cover and questioned it. I was told they didn't provide it with custom countertops. Maybe that has changed in the past two years (granted, I'm not on this forum all the time either so I don't know what all has been said about it).


With the excess countertop they give you, you can cut it to size to fit the fridge panels. Someone else suggested that and that's what we did. We really like how it ties in to the counter and many others that have viewed the trailer have commented on that as well.
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Old 11-29-2018, 01:12 PM   #8
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Of concern is;
My Jeep Grand Cherokee has REAR LOAD LEVELING SUSPENSION, and Jeep requires WDH for trailers over 3500 pounds. For the E2 WDH’s, ETI buildsheets state: *Not Compatible with vehicles that have an Air Leveling Suspension System
So it’s needed, but not possible?
Perhaps not the WDH’s that ETI stocks, but there are other choices

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I would verify if you're actually getting a sink cover since you're getting custom countertop. When we got our trailer 2 years ago I was surprised NOT to get the sink cover and questioned it. I was told they didn't provide it with custom countertops. Maybe that has changed in the past two years (granted, I'm not on this forum all the time either so I don't know what all has been said about it).

Sink cover is included with custom Formica, *unless* you have an aftermarket sink installed. They don’t make custom shaped sink covers. But they do skin standard sink covers with whatever Formica is used in the rest of the trailer.
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If I did over again I would not have them put in the winterizing kit, but instead buy aftermarket and install the kit at the pickup tube at the bottom of fresh water tank. Another member on the forum did this and now can fill system with RV antifreeze from the outside. It also eliminates the issue of water sitting at the bottom of pickup tube.

Looked for the thread where this was done, but could not find.
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Old 11-29-2018, 02:24 PM   #11
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Back again, after speaking with Melisa. No, ETI doesn’t install either the pop-up AC outlet, nor the AC receptacle by the door, below the flip up shelf (which tons of you guys have, BTW).

She did tell me that household boxes are used, not sealed boxes. Doesn’t matter, there’s a way, regardless. I can also install a box myself, after I tap into their magic, tamper proof boxes.

No custom sink covers, just the leftover countertop cutout, insofar as I know. It’ll slide around, if I don’t get around to routing it out for my own custom work. Maybe I’ll pitch it in file 13, but I want any remnant or morsel of castaway material in my grubby hands. Then, I can decide whether it gets used or not.
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Thanks for contacting us, auto leveling systems can be an issue for all weight distribution systems. when the back raises and levels out it is actually lessening the pressure on the arms of the hitch. which is canceling out the weight distribution and sway control. however if set up properly this is not an issue. so yes the E2 is compatible with your set up and completely safe.
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Ive been through all of etrailer’s litany of WDH’s, and it comes back to recommending the E2. One of the best. No warnings about the JGC whatsoever.

Melisa doesn’t have an answer, but I bet it is about the two systems fighting against each other, but that would be the same, no matter who’s WDH is installed. Problem is, Jeep warns that if trailer is over 3500 pounds, then a WDH must be used.
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Old 11-29-2018, 02:54 PM   #12
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Melisa wrote back, telling me that the end of kitchen cabinet AC outlet location, under the flip-shelf, had been approved. Yay!

We also want an AC receptacle in the permanent bed area, near the bath wall side, where the flip up shelf is.

Also, her supervisor is digging for information about why the WDH is not recommended for my “rear auto-level.”

Finally, she reiterated that no more increases are in-store for my buildsheet, because of my down payment, and that my orders have been, basically fulfilled. It is to include all the way to my December 13 drop-dead build date, giving a little breathing room. That’s my hopes, and the reason for posting this as a final shakedown before the show hits the road. Heheh. Er Hoho for the season.
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Here is pic of underside of sink cover on my 2008 17B. As long as you have the cutout piece, it doesn't look difficult.
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Thank you Rubicon.


With self leveling system, why would you need WDH. Self leveling and WDH are basically doing the same thing. You would only need sway control IMO.
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A WDH distributes weight from the rear axle of the tow vehicle to its front axle and to the trailer axle.
A leveling system simply jacks up the rear of the tow vehicle, by stiffening the rear suspension, so your headlights aren't pointing at the sky.
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Sink cover is included with custom Formica, *unless* you have an aftermarket sink installed. They don’t make custom shaped sink covers. But they do skin standard sink covers with whatever Formica is used in the rest of the trailer.

Ah, that's why we didn't get it then. Thanks for the clarification.
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Old 11-29-2018, 03:42 PM   #17
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If it’s readable, here is a screenshot of my manual, which states the limitations of the auto leveling system.

Auto leveling and a WDH are two different things.
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Two items we included in our 21' that you might wish to consider are:
• opening window over counter on driver's side
• outside light over exterior storage box

With or without the additions you have put together an awesome trailer. We love our 2018.
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With the excess countertop they give you, you can cut it to size to fit the fridge panels. Someone else suggested that and that's what we did. We really like how it ties in to the counter and many others that have viewed the trailer have commented on that as well.
If we do indeed have leftover formica, then swapping out the refrigerator panels is a good looking deal.
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Two items we included in our 21' that you might wish to consider are:
• opening window over counter on driver's side
• outside light over exterior storage box

With or without the additions you have put together an awesome trailer. We love our 2018.
I thinks he's got the front light...
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