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Old 06-22-2016, 07:32 PM   #1
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New Windows and Insulation

Had a chance to visit Escape for some work and wanted a close up of the new windows and the "new" insulation. The next several posts cover a couple of observations.
One, the windows, intrude much less into the interior. The old windows come in about 1.5 inches, the new ones about .75.
Two, when opened fully, the air access is quite large. Also we took these pictures in pouring rain and I opened the window all the way. No rain inside! Yea!
Three, the windows cover all of the framing material on the outside AND there is a rubber gasket that window seals against creating a good thermal break between the glass and aluminum frame. (I believe these will be a much better insulator than the older windows which I documented with thermal imaging as being great conduits for infiltration of cold/heat.)
Four, a picture of the rear window with the divider.
Five, the "new" insulation is a 1/2 inch white foam material I have seen used as packing material. It is closed cell and has no reflective coating. I took a picture of the foam inside the bench area under a dinette seat.
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Old 06-22-2016, 07:35 PM   #2
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Additional window pictures

Pictures added of open windows, outside window coverage and the gasket. Additional picture of the new insulation under the dinette bench.
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Old 06-22-2016, 07:37 PM   #3
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Thanks Tim and Julie, great info to know. So the build pictures in the other thread, like yours, do show the new insulation over the wheel wells. It would seem it would also make the trailer much more quiet than the old style insulation.
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Are you thinking of upgrading because of these new features?
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Are you thinking of upgrading because of these new features?
Not at this point. Just wanted others to know that I think these changes are great and worth the extra costs as I believe they will go far to alleviating some of the annoyances that have existed, e.g. trying to have a slider window open in the rain for ventilation; window frames that transfer heat/cold to the inside. Although there is no reflective barrier on the new foam, it will most likely do more than the Reflectix did.
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Although there is no reflective barrier on the new foam, it will most likely do more than the Reflectix did.

That's likely true. In speaking to Reace he said the new insulation was more than twice the R factor.




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Not at this point. Just wanted others to know that I think these changes are great and worth the extra costs as I believe they will go far to alleviating some of the annoyances that have existed, .......
Techfan: if you decide to part with your 15b and get a shiny new 17b, please reach out to us, as we are looking for a 15.

Thanks for the report, I always enjoy looking at the photos everybody posts.

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I too was very impressed with the windows when I checked them out at the rally. Most of my observations you covered. They look great too.

I had mentioned it in another thread, but one thing Reace told me that he was pleasantly surprised how much of a better sound insulation it provides too. He said inside of the trailer with just the insulation in place was noticeably quieter than with the Reflectix.
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Going to make those nap breaks along the highways a little easier to have.
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Going to make those nap breaks along the highways a little easier to have.
Good thing we only sleep at night. Great info on the new trailers though!!!
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