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Old 11-21-2015, 01:30 PM   #11
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What is wrong with Iron City, made with Monongahela River water.....
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Old 11-21-2015, 01:44 PM   #12
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The hoegaarden is a very good Belgian. My brother who is a better beer judge than I prefers it and if he's not on a hoppy kick, he is usually well supplied with Hoegaarden. The Sam Adams at about a buck and a half cheaper, is "softer" with very little after taste. Definitely a big brewery seasonal offering with a "catchy" name. Anybody who would try it would not be offended and not finish at least one bottle. So it's a good beer but not on par with Hoegaarden. In my opinion. Jim, we can't get many of those local NE USA brews out here. You'll see Saranac once in a while but not much else. Only way we get Ohio beers is my son in law Todd picks them up when he's over that way and brings them out. If they can sell Burning River named for the Cayuhoga which used to catch on fire in Cleveland, the Monongahela has great possibilities and can't be all bad. Just can't get it here. Like Yuengling, which Teresa had as her Wedding beer at Hilton Head a few years ago. .
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Pierre Celis, the Belgian who started Hoegaarden brought back what was essentially an extinct beer style. Eventually he started a new brewery in Austin, Celis Brewery and made some very excellent beers. Then Miller bought it, managed it poorly and Celis vanished. Its name was bought by The Michigan Brewing Company until they went out of business. Latest rumor is that Pierre's daughter has reacquired the name and is going to restart Celis. Celis White, was in my opinion, the best White I've ever tasted - would love to see it come back.

I make a Belgian White style, but it is a tough one to get consistent taste with - the special yeast and blend of spices are tricky.
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Old 11-21-2015, 02:41 PM   #14
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I never got into beer making. My Dad was Third Armored (Spearhead) 32 nd armored and fought extensively in Belgium in WWII. He had high regard for his treatment by the Belgian people. That transferred to his sons with appreciation for Belgian Horses, Belgian shotguns, Belgian chocolate and most anything Belgian that had alcohol in it. So it's really my job to try Belgian beers. In fact my middle brother lives down the street in Ft Collins from the founder of the New Belgium brewery. The 32nd was much decorated, fought in the Battle of the Ardennes,(Bulge). rolled into Cologne and liberated a concentration camp which pretty much messed with my dad's head the rest of his life.
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Dave - there are so many excellent Belgian beers - you have a wonderful job ahead of you. My favorites are the ones that are real abby dubble styles. Each one that come from an actual abby, has its own unique yeast, some have been brewed in the same room for hundreds of years and with open fermentation methods, they don't even have to add any yeast. A good Belgian beer has flavors that emerge and change as they warm up as you drink them. I've always thought it would be fun to just tour Belgium and go from one brewery to another.
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