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06-14-2014, 02:37 PM
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#41
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Kamloops, British Columbia
Trailer: 2024 Bigfoot 21RB
Posts: 254
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In addition to using the various means to lock the hitch we also place a lock on our Bal X chocks (through the ring with holes in it where you attach the ratchet). With the lock in place you can not remove the chock and the wheels on the trailer will not turn. Another way to slow a thief down and secure the trailer and Bal X chocks.
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09-05-2014, 11:27 AM
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#42
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Burlington, Vermont
Trailer: 2014 17b/ 2012 Chevy Colorado
Posts: 736
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Originally Posted by ice-breaker
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Just discovered this sobering video demonstrating how little time it takes to disable these devices. Is the coupler on the 17 welded or bolted to the frame? I can't tell from photos I have been able to see.
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09-05-2014, 12:06 PM
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#43
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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This one looks to be more secure than some of the others. Good reviews on etrailer.com. I suppose if a thief is determined he could defeat any lock, but this one might take more time.
Trailer Coupler Lock - Gorilla Guard for 2" Couplers Tow Ready Locks 63228
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09-05-2014, 12:26 PM
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#44
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,210
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Will be buying one of these from Cascade Supply & Marine in Chilliwack for same price as on Amazon w/o shipping charges: California Immobilizer C100503 Type B Immobilizer by California Immobilizer - Locks & Catches The Immobilizer Type B C100503 California Immobilizer Corp.
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09-05-2014, 12:30 PM
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#45
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Antelope, California
Trailer: 2009 17B "Suite Escape" pulled by a 2020 Toyota Sienna
Posts: 1,565
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I have a similar one like the Gorilla Guard, and concur it could be defeated after time, but I think it has deterrent value, if nothing else. It's too bad we even have a topic like this to discuss. But it is one not to ignore in any event. I saw an idea on the Casita forum where a large decal was placed on the roof in the event of theft. It then could be spotted from the air. Obviously that wouldn't help if it was hidden; just an added inexpensive measure.
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09-05-2014, 12:40 PM
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#46
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Vancouver Island, British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21--FOR SALE
Posts: 411
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What does the California immobilizer weigh?
Ross, would you happen to know the weight of the California immobilizer?
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Originally Posted by Rossue
Will be buying one of these from Cascade Supply & Marine in Chilliwack for same price as on Amazon w/o shipping charges: California Immobilizer C100503 Type B Immobilizer by California Immobilizer - Locks & Catches The Immobilizer Type B C100503 California Immobilizer Corp.
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09-05-2014, 12:46 PM
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#47
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,210
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Amazon says shipping weight for that model is 20 lbs. Despite the name California Immobilizer is a Canadian company based in Nanaimo.
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09-05-2014, 12:55 PM
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#48
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Vancouver Island, British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21--FOR SALE
Posts: 411
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This is the trouble with using a tow vehicle without a lot of reserve towing capacity: I'm taking a spaceship approach to adding items of significant weight.
OTOH, if the trailer is stolen, that becomes a much bigger problem than what it and its contents weigh.
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09-05-2014, 12:57 PM
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#49
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Catchlight
OTOH, if the trailer is stolen, that becomes a bigger problem that what it weighs.
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Yeah, kinda missing the forest for the trees.:
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09-05-2014, 01:05 PM
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#50
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Missoula, Montana
Trailer: Escape 19, 2018: Last Best Escape
Posts: 395
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TRAILER ACCESSORIES
I've owned the Alpha lock since we picked up our 17b. Darn good lock.
KSitte
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09-05-2014, 02:19 PM
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#51
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2008 Escape 17b
Posts: 1,868
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09-05-2014, 03:14 PM
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#52
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Comox, British Columbia
Trailer: 5.0 TA #9
Posts: 226
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Lock Right Up
I have a 5.0 TA, and I wrap a chain around the pin and then padlock it. It's on the pin tightly, and is a deterrent.
For longer periods when we are away, I run very heavy chain thru the 2 wheel rims, and lock the chain together. I also park the tow vehicle in front of the trailer, so it would also have to be moved or stolen.
Plus we insure the trailer.
And then I stop worrying about it.
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09-05-2014, 05:07 PM
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#53
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Olympia wa, Washington
Trailer: 5.0TA 2017
Posts: 2,255
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the video of the guy takeing the trailer with the hitch lock on it was concerning -just towed the trailer with the hitch chains -left the lock in place.
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09-05-2014, 05:09 PM
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#54
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Olympia wa, Washington
Trailer: 5.0TA 2017
Posts: 2,255
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does the Alpha lock prevent them from removing the tire?
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09-05-2014, 06:15 PM
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#55
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox hunt
does the Alpha lock prevent them from removing the tire?
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No. They can then use the spare - or they can bring their own wheel and tire which might be practical due to the common nature of trailer wheels - and tow it away, but it will take time to do that.
There are other wheel-mounted security devices which cover or otherwise secure the wheel nuts/studs, of varying effectiveness and quality. One is the Trailer Keeper product, discussed earlier in this thread.
The best wheel lock design I've seen (but just online) is the AL-KO Secure, but it is specific to the wheel design, and specific to the AL-KO suspension (which is not sold in North America and specifically not used by Escape). One could custom-fabricate something similar, but it would be a lot of work.
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09-05-2014, 07:24 PM
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#56
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: N/A, Indiana
Trailer: Escape
Posts: 976
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossue
Will be buying one of these from Cascade Supply & Marine in Chilliwack for same price as on Amazon w/o shipping charges: California Immobilizer C100503 Type B Immobilizer by California Immobilizer - Locks & Catches The Immobilizer Type B C100503 California Immobilizer Corp.
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This wheel locking device is well made and was exported with our trailer.
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09-05-2014, 08:29 PM
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#57
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Burlington, Vermont
Trailer: 2014 17b/ 2012 Chevy Colorado
Posts: 736
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yardsale
Just discovered this sobering video demonstrating how little time it takes to disable these devices. Is the coupler on the 17 welded or bolted to the frame? I can't tell from photos I have been able to see.
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Sorry, never posted the link I referred to.
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09-05-2014, 09:02 PM
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#58
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Here is pic of my 17B coupler. Welded.
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09-05-2014, 09:51 PM
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#59
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yardsale
Is the coupler on the 17 welded or bolted to the frame?
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Couplers which mount on a straight tube or channel are commonly bolted on, but A-frame couplers which complete two sides of the frame meeting at a 50-degree angle are almost always welded on. All Escapes - as far as I know - have the A-frame design with a welded coupler.
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09-05-2014, 10:28 PM
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#60
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Glad I saw how easy it is to defeat those hitch locks. Now I'd like to see a competitor show how easy it is to defeat the lock they are trying to sell.
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