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Old 07-24-2015, 04:33 PM   #1
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Working away on my build sheet as we are a month away from finalizing, and I have a couple questions.

1. We hear that it's good to get a captains light over the drawer stack at the end of the bed. Where specifically should it go? You can rotate those right? Should it go under the cabinet on the bed end so we could point it towards the bed if we needed it there? Or on the opposite side so it's out of the way? We are asking for an additional (non opening) window over the drawer stack if that makes any difference. Oh and we have one of the old furnaces saved for us so I think we'll be getting the old (shorter) drawer stack as well.

2. Thinking about adding a cabinet door to the under bed space near the bathroom. We're told it can go beside the bathroom or on the 45. Which would be better?

I have no idea how we'll use either of these things but I hear they're good to have. Thank you in advance!
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Old 07-24-2015, 04:42 PM   #2
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Our reading lights are at the head of the bed so we can easily read in bed. I would see no reason to install a light over the drawers at the bottom of bed - they are reading lights and would seem to serve no useful purpose in that position IMHO. No idea why you would want a window there either. There is plenty of natural light from the standard windows and at night there is plenty of light from the fixtures.
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Old 07-24-2015, 05:02 PM   #3
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We wish we had thought to get a light in that spot (a single under-cabinet LED fixture would have worked just as well). Here's why: when we're plugged in, we have small coffeemaker that we keep on that countertop. Making coffee in the semi-dark is a challenge.

Not everyone would use this counter for anything that required light, but if you think you might, I say go for it. I plan to install an under-cabinet LED there sometime soon. Fortunately, there's plenty of 12-volt nearby that I can tap into.
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Old 07-24-2015, 05:12 PM   #4
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Hi Jill- after talking with Susan we both think a light and window is a good thing- especially the light. If it were me I would put a standard ceiling light(a single-not double on the overhead cabinet. A captain's light there might be clunky.

For the door, we have the extra one by the bathroom. Having it at the 45 would be so close to the stock door as to not provide any more meaningful access it would seem
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Jill, Jack here, We have used our 21 a lot and we're happy with it just the way it is now. We have the reading lights over the head of the bed and 4 over the dinette. The additional door we had installed on the angled panel so shoes in there could be reached while standing outside and the bath door clears. There are so many lights on the ceiling that we don't think we need more, although one of our chandelles (sp?) is over the drawer cabinet.
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Old 07-24-2015, 05:53 PM   #6
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I got 4 extra captain lights in my BlackJack Escape, 2 over bed is essential, one over night stand, one by the door for night time excursions and 2 at the rear "U" dinette. I you want to ever install a 120v electric heater under the bed by the bath, leave the door at the stock locale and have an extra 120v installed on the 45 degree angle. That way you can use a night light at night time there and later install a built in electric heater that keeps your bath warm and toasty. See post #66 here Planned modifications to BlackJack….
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Old 07-24-2015, 06:30 PM   #7
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Added an underbed door next to the bath that we use for a show drawer. On the 45 we added a 120v outlet so wifey could use her hair dryer with the mirror on the inside of the bath door when it's open.

I added a flip up counter top shelf next to the sink for making coffee; that's near the water and plenty of light there. We brew into a carafe, so the shelf/pot no longer needed once coffee is made.
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Working away on my build sheet as we are a month away from finalizing, and I have a couple questions.

1. We hear that it's good to get a captains light over the drawer stack at the end of the bed. Where specifically should it go? You can rotate those right? Should it go under the cabinet on the bed end so we could point it towards the bed if we needed it there? Or on the opposite side so it's out of the way? We are asking for an additional (non opening) window over the drawer stack if that makes any difference. Oh and we have one of the old furnaces saved for us so I think we'll be getting the old (shorter) drawer stack as well.

2. Thinking about adding a cabinet door to the under bed space near the bathroom. We're told it can go beside the bathroom or on the 45. Which would be better?

I have no idea how we'll use either of these things but I hear they're good to have. Thank you in advance!
We were thinking of adding a light above those drawers but did not. Wanted to use a different captains light. I am supposing with the electrical in that area that it would be an easy add-on if we want it later. You will probably want it if you don't get it! There is a great deal of ceiling light but depends on what you are using the light for and the ceiling light may be blocked by you. Two captains lights at head of bed are standard on the 21'. So we did not get any more. Some put them in the dinette also but we are not.

We are having a second bed door added on the angle. That is what I presume you see when the entry door is open. We wanted to be able to access that whole underbed area there easier. We put more outlets on the area closest to the bathroom where you can also add a door.
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Wow! Every possible combination! We have 4 additional captains lights at the dinette and an extra door to the underbed storage next to the bathroom which is perfect for access to an area for shoes. This set up is perfect for us. How do you think you'll use the space? That will determine what you need. Think about walking into the trailer, getting up in the middle of the night, reading when it's rainy. It's great to be able to choose but at the same time a bit daunting. You'll make the right choice for you.
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I agree that a standard ceiling light over the cabinet would be good. The extra window is a good idea; you can never have too many windows imho. I hardly ever use the captain's lights over the head of my bed, as I read with a lighted ebook reader.

As an aside, I wish all the LED lights were the double lights. You can't have too much light in a kitchen area, and it seems like I need more light as I get older anyway.
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