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Old 12-02-2013, 04:35 PM   #21
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Alf and Jon

Put your two pics together - quite the contrast since the time they were parked side by side at the Niagara Escape!

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Old 12-02-2013, 08:09 PM   #22
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Vermilye, nice looking campsite. Can you tell us the name of the campsite? Is it in the Picacho Park area?
Site B1, Picacho Peak, AZ. I was there for 4 days; now I'm at Lost Dutchman for a week waiting for Alf to catch up with me!
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:25 PM   #23
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Thank you for sharing the location and site information. Looks like a lovely place to visit.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:42 PM   #24
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Site B1, Picacho Peak, AZ. I was there for 4 days; now I'm at Lost Dutchman for a week waiting for Alf to catch up with me!
Really spectacular photo Jon. That is definitely one to send to Tammy and Reace for the Escape calender.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:49 PM   #25
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Really spectacular photo Jon. That is definitely one to send to Tammy and Reace for the Escape calender.
I'll second that! Beauty!
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Old 12-03-2013, 06:18 AM   #26
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Site B1, Picacho Peak, AZ. I was there for 4 days; now I'm at Lost Dutchman for a week waiting for Alf to catch up with me!
Hi: Vermilye...The only Ketchup I'm enjoying is the last of the Heinz!!! I hope there'z another kindz. Still Xing off the calendar. 14 working days to go!!! Alf
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Old 12-03-2013, 10:54 AM   #27
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Update from yesterday …..really we are not supposed to have this now ( belongs in the mountains) March is our real snow month . We so need a chinook , it's minus 18c………yuck !
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what is a chinook?
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Old 12-03-2013, 11:00 AM   #29
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what is a chinook?
Here on the west coast a chinook is a type of salmon.
In the interior and on the prairies it is a nice warm break from the sub zero temperatures. Temp often rise from say -15C to about +10C in a matter of hours. Calgary gets a lot of chinooks. Then you get to deal with all the muddy slush on the streets and sidewalks.
I have been there.
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A chinook !!! A big wind that comes from the mountains to save us from having to live with snow covered streets all winter !
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Old 12-03-2013, 11:04 AM   #31
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Here on the west coast a chinook is a type of salmon.
In the interior and on the prairies it is a nice warm break from the sub zero temperatures. Temp often rise from say -15C to about +10C in a matter of hours. Then you get to deal with all the muddy slush on the streets and sidewalks.
I have been there.
Muddy…….. hey our streets are paved ( slushy )…. Calgary is pretty much foothills . Have never felt too much warming from a Chinook in Wpg .
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Chinook winds are warm winds in southwestern Alberta caused by moist weather patterns from the Pacific coast cooling as they climb up the mountains, and then rapidly warming as they drop down the eastern slopes of the Rockies. They are also associated with high winds, and temperatures that can get well above freezing. They usually cause a big mess on roads by softening and melting the accumulated snow.

On Jan. 11, 1983, the temperature in Calgary rose 30°C (from –17°C to 13°C) in 4 hours, That is a 54°F swing for you south of the 49th.

For me, if we could moderate these swings, and stay at about -5 to -10°C all winter, with very little wind, I would be totally loving it.

But, after a good cold spell like we are having, chinooks can be quite welcomed.
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Old 12-03-2013, 06:16 PM   #33
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So cpaharley guess you are hoping for a chinook so that Dave can get through Alberta with your 21 if that's the way he's travelling. Hope it arrives OK for your initial outing in 10 or 11 days! We may come and see it on our way from NC to ON in January if you haven't hidden it away till spring.

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Old 12-03-2013, 06:48 PM   #34
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No hiding, we plan on using it one weekend every month, winter spring,summer,fall.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:24 AM   #35
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The Chinook winds of Southern Alberta and the Santa Ana winds of California are caused by the same weather phenomena. The uplift on the other side of the rocks causes the air mass to lose it's moisture and then as the now dry airmass comes across the rocks it becomes a down slope flow which both increases in temperature and decreases in humidity at the same time. When a chinook blows in southern Alberta, temperatures soar and the snow melts and evaporates. But when the wind stops blowing, the temperature plunges....
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No hiding, we plan on using it one weekend every month, winter spring,summer,fall.
Jim, what kind of winters do you have there. It is going to be 10 below here in MN this weekend.
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We sometimes get below 20 degrees in the central valley, but other parts of the state get colder similar to your weather. Went to W. Va mountains last year on Superbowl weekend camping in the Escape 19, it was 5 degrees out, 70 inside. Hope to replicate that again this year.
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Chinook winds are warm winds in southwestern Alberta...
Growing up in the PNW, we called the warm south (winter) wind a Chinook, too; the cold winds from the north we called Northeasters. Now I often hear them called the Pineapple Express and the Alberta Express, respectively.
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The Pineapple Express is a weather system that comes from the area off the Hawaiian islands and is not only warm, but brings lots and lots of rain. If we get hit by a Pineapple Express in the dead of winter, it often means flooding too.
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Growing up in the PNW, we called the warm south (winter) wind a Chinook, too; the cold winds from the north we called Northeasters. Now I often hear them called the Pineapple Express and the Alberta Express, respectively.
There is this tiny hamlet in SE Alberta, and when the winds blow from that direction in the winter, and are usually brutally cold, they get unofficially called a Manyberries Chinook.
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