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Old 06-12-2019, 09:08 PM   #1
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Advice on 21' Escape vs 5.0 Escape?

Hi there.

Anyone have any feedback on going from a 21' to a 5.0 or from a 5.0 to a 21'?

We're headed to Canada in July to try to figure it out, but would dearly love to hear from one and all on what you've experience - real life.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:46 PM   #2
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We have a 21' but have never been in a 5.0 other than at ETI @ Chilliwack. I really like the layout of the 5.0. Would love the bigger bed and not have bathroom right adjacent to bed. Would love to have shorter overall length with tug hooked up.

However, I'm not willing to give up storage in my pickup bed with a Leer topper. Life is full of compromises. Choose what works for you.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:06 PM   #3
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yeah, I have a 21, and love it. I need the space on my truck bed with leer topper for my astronomy gear, music fest gear (tables, chairs, awnings), big coolers, water jugs, extra propane tanks, etc, so a 5th wheel is pretty much out of the question.

back of my F250 longbed with JUST my main telescope and minimum required equipment. rest of space is for tables, carpets, chairs, coolers, etc. oh, and that yellow pelican case is my old eyepiece case, the new one is bigger.

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Old 06-12-2019, 11:48 PM   #4
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We went from a 19’ to a 5.0 and love it! Mostly because of the layout. I really like the feeling that the bedroom is a separate room because it is “upstairs.” We love not having to climb over each other to get out of bed.

Yes we lost some storage in the truck bed, but so much more room inside. I built a secure box that’s only opening is facing the locking tailgate. It is wedged between the hitch base and the tailgate. That is where we keep the grill, some tools and an extra extension cord.
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Old 06-13-2019, 12:30 AM   #5
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yeah, my scope won't fit in something like that

the ramps and ladder, sure... but the scope base box plus top tube needs to be in a dry clean protected space, weighs over 100 lbs, and has to be wheelbarrowed around (you can see the handles but not the wheels in the above picture...). this is a 20" diameter f/5 scope, stands about 9 feet tall when its setup and pointed at zenith. thats a 7 foot step ladder, my old 6' wasn't tall enough for kids to reach the eyepiece safely.
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Old 06-13-2019, 12:32 AM   #6
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assembled scope, with the wheel handles still on (normally they are removed)

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Old 06-13-2019, 06:25 AM   #7
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Going from a E19 to a E21 was easy, and my next order was a 5.0 TA in 2016 when at the last moment freaked out over the hitch issue, what happens if Trademasters can not install a proper hitch for my tow vehicle, what happens to all my stuff I need to take out with me in the truck bed, what if I want/need to get a cap for my truck later on, what is towing a fifth wheel like, I know the pin weight is heavier than my tongue weight, I know what a pull behind feels like, is the loft colder than in a E21, the ceiling is very high in the 5.0 for those vertically challenged to reach fan controls or even the o/h cabinets, what as we age we need assist on the steps to/fro the loft, why am I getting a smaller bathroom than what I have, the 21 is plenty big, do I need something even bigger? All of these questions were spinning around in my head, I called Tammy and switched my order to a E19....and now we know the rest of the story, going back to a E21 after deciding the E19 was too small, 3 years later
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:30 AM   #8
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I would focus on which layout you prefer along with bath size. We have found with an RVs there are always trade offs so you pick your priorities. We love our 5.0 for the layout and shorter trailer length with a couple of feet in the truck.
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assembled scope, with the wheel handles still on (normally they are removed)


A 20-inch Dobsonian?! Good grief! What is the faintest magnitude you can see, given ideal conditions?
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:22 AM   #10
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I have been in many different 21s and 5,0TAs. Both are great trailers in their own rights. For our purpose the 21 layout did not work very well, so went from our 19 to the 5.0TA which for it's size is just about a perfect trailer.

My only disappointment with the 5.0TA is less storage space in the bed of the truck, but we have worked around that to make it work for us.

As we plan to travel a lot over the next decade or so this is a great sized trailer, as is the 21.
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