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Old 08-05-2015, 02:25 PM   #51
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Not sure what you mean there Pat?
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Old 08-05-2015, 02:43 PM   #52
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Not sure what you mean there Pat?
Jim someone I think yesterday asked how big bathroom sizes . I didn't know at first myself . You can click on Escape on this forum down at the right and get all kinds of measurements for the trailers there . That's all . Pat
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Old 08-05-2015, 02:54 PM   #53
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The bath in the 5.0 is wider, therefore it must protrude out further.
Perhaps, then that means the refrigerator has more space in the back (because it's pulled out to be flush and all the cabinets are deeper as well.

I see your measurements Jim. I'll stop by Ten Forward on my way home.
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Old 08-05-2015, 03:01 PM   #54
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For those interested in bath sizes the 19 and 5 th are about in the same configuration looking at the layouts so are the same size . The 21 is placed across in front giving more length and width to the bath area. Pat
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Old 08-05-2015, 05:12 PM   #55
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The 19' Escape:
Bathroom size 40"w x 27"d x 72"h

21' Escape:
Bathroom size 31"w x 48"d x 72"h

17' Escape:
Bathroom size 37"w x 25"d x 67"h

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Bathroom size 40"w x 27"d x 72"h
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Old 08-05-2015, 10:51 PM   #56
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About the 5.0TA and "wheelbase"...

The overall length of the 21' and the 5.0TA is nearly the same, and they seem to have the same size (actually the same body and frame) from the axles back, so the distance from the axles to the coupler or pin (which is at the very front in both cases) should be nearly the same - the term "wheelbase" doesn't normally apply to a trailer, but this is the closest thing to it.

Having the hitch roughly over the axle (for the 5.0) does change backing up, compared to having the hitch behind the bumper (for all other models) even for the same length (hitch to axle) of trailer. Since that hitch position difference makes the trailer less sensitive to the angle between truck and trailer, the fifth-wheel should behave somewhat like a longer trailer - that's what I've noticed using a tractor with the ball very close to the axle, compared to a pickup truck. A movement of the steering wheel produces less reaction in trailer motion than with a hitch further from the axle, or than with a shorter trailer. Precision placement is easier, but the front of the tug can end up swinging side to side a lot to get there.

If there is enough hitch-to-cab clearance, a fifth-wheel rig can turn to extreme angles especially when backing, which can be handy for tight spots. I've seen big-rig drivers get turned around in very tight places relative to the length of their rigs.
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Old 08-06-2015, 08:27 AM   #57
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Brian is absolutely correct. Wheelbase is not normally applied to a trailer. When I used the term in a previous post, I "borrowed" the term to use it in reference to the distance from the rear axle of the tow vehicle and the axle(s) of the trailer which, as he has stated, affects backing characteristics. Many people who have gone from a bumper pull to a 5er have "reported a learning curve" as the backing characteristics of the 5er differ. But it is not really any more difficult with practice. I personally find the fiberglass 5ers respond faster to changes in steering than bumper pull trailers or full sized 5th wheels I have owned or towed. But I frequently tell people who find backing up difficult to practice with a dump cart attached to a lawn tractor. Talk about fast response of a trailer to steering changes (it doesn't take much to jackknife a dump cart); if you can master that, you can back anything.
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Old 08-06-2015, 08:57 AM   #59
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Right now this is me getting into my back yard....
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Old 08-06-2015, 10:23 AM   #60
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I found I could jacknife my 21 enough to make the front storage box latch press on the taillight lens JUST ENOUGH to crack it. Missed the sheet metal, though.
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