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Old 08-06-2015, 10:38 AM   #61
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I found I could jacknife my 21 enough to make the front storage box latch press on the taillight lens JUST ENOUGH to crack it. Missed the sheet metal, though.

Almost did the same thing Charlie, at a tight back in spot in Oregon. Didn't crack the lens, but did put a scuff on it. It bugged out. Lesson learned - the turning radius is limited slightly by having the box.
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Old 08-06-2015, 10:45 AM   #62
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Almost did the same thing Charlie, at a tight back in spot in Oregon. Didn't crack the lens, but did put a scuff on it. It bugged out. Lesson learned - the turning radius is limited slightly by having the box.

I have a few scratches on my ridgeline tail lights, so I just do less cranking and take more time backing up.
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Old 08-06-2015, 10:51 AM   #63
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Got a star in my passenger side tail light; know of another who had to send his Dakota to the body shop when his 19 nicked him.
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Old 08-06-2015, 11:25 AM   #64
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And I'm to assume that the 5.0 owners are chuckling right now, saying "silly people"...?
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Old 08-06-2015, 11:29 AM   #65
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And I'm to assume that the 5.0 owners are chuckling right now, saying "silly people"...?
Or those of us with no storage box to contend with.
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Old 08-06-2015, 11:58 AM   #66
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Good point. I could to do this all day long. But then, what would the point of that be? We have to make 2 sharp turns to get into our driveway, and now, that box ain't lookin' so special! It's all good info though...
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Old 08-06-2015, 12:14 PM   #67
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A big factor in our 21 choice over the 19 was the added width (6 inch?) as we can pass each other in the aisle and still not step on the dogs...........
Now that we have used both, this is very noticable difference.
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"bugged out" should have been "buffed out" - dang autocorrect on my phone...
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Jack knife crushed box lid

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I found I could jacknife my 21 enough to make the front storage box latch press on the taillight lens JUST ENOUGH to crack it. Missed the sheet metal, though.
Ok, now I'm not feeling so bad after reading some of these posts. I wasn't going to post that I jack knifed the trailer, being a little embarrassed by the event. Even after 24,000 miles towing, I jack knifed the 15 at the Oregon Coast Gathering at Bullard's Beach and crunched a hole in the lid of the box. No excuses, but some things were different. I had the new, Nissan Frontier with rear axle location slightly different than the Santa Fe. Two, I had just reinstalled the Andersen hitch which sits 2 inches closer to the body of the truck than the Equal-i-zer. Three, we have one of the first Andersen hitches and the Red liner material has started to grab more after time (once the trailer starts to turn going the opposite direction does not bring it around.) There is also the problem of having much less distance between the ball and the axle on the 15. It was also a site where the turn in was more than 90 degrees.

It happened quickly, and although I scuffed the tail light, I was able to buff it out. Unfortunately, I put a hole in the lid of the box, so this past week has been learning all about fiber glass repair. Fixing the hole has been no problem, but gel coat, that is another issue. The hard part has been working on the corner of the lid with two surfaces. I am getting there, however.

I almost did it at home parking in the driveway. I just could not get the trailer to go where I wanted until I disconnected the Andersen collar and the hitch was free to just sit on the ball. Then I had NO problems at all. I just received the new BLACK lining material from Andersen and I notice that it is much smoother and harder than the red material. Since we towed with the Equal-i-zer and also backed up on many occasions including with the new tug (Frontier.) I can't help but think that the Andersen is a major part of my problem, especially, since disconnecting the collar made backing up a breeze. Things that make you go, hmmmmmm…….
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And I am reading all of this and taking notes. I will be towing the new 21 in 5 weeks and it is cheaper to learn off of others experiences. Loren
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