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Old 10-29-2016, 12:01 PM   #1
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Starting our build sheet -frameless windows?

We are seriously working on our build sheet. Right now my question is - can anyone point me to photos of the frameless windows?

In deciding on the extra insulation & frameless windows, what did you decide and how did you reach that decision? (We do plan to do most of our camping in the shoulder season rather than in the summer, so we are considering this)

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Old 10-29-2016, 12:16 PM   #2
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Best place to start would be the Escape News thread and click on the "New 2017 17' Trailer - Interior and Exterior Photos" link.That should give you a good overview of the new trailer.
I have a 17B on order and I'm going through my build sheet now. Decided to go with the thermal windows and extra insulation since it helps with any hot/cold extremes as well as helping with sound. Figure it's better to add now vs later if it's even possible.
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Old 10-29-2016, 12:18 PM   #3
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Thanks Rick. I will do that.
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Old 10-29-2016, 12:23 PM   #4
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We are seriously working on our build sheet. Right now my question is - can anyone point me to photos of the frameless windows?

In deciding on the extra insulation & frameless windows, what did you decide and how did you reach that decision? (We do plan to do most of our camping in the shoulder season rather than in the summer, so we are considering this)

TIA
I can tell you that the old style windows have terrible condensation even in mildly cool temps. Frameless--GOOD
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Old 10-29-2016, 12:24 PM   #5
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I too am working on my build sheet for an April delivery of my 19.
Decided to go with the extra insulation and frameless thermal windows. Though I would like to know if those windows are double pane, or what makes them "thermal". Anybody know?
I did read somewhere that double pane windows are not such a great idea in a motor home/travel trailer because the road vibrations can cause the seal between the two panes to fail. Any thoughts on that?
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Old 10-29-2016, 12:26 PM   #6
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Also, it appears that the frameless windows only open a little. Is that correct?

I am thinking that in the rain, we could have them open, whereas sliding windows need to be closed in the rain. Am I missing something?
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Old 10-29-2016, 12:29 PM   #7
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I've had my trailer now for 2-1/2 years. I camp year around (except December) in the wet and around freezing temperatures all the way to 100 degrees. I have the dual pane sliders and have had zero condensation issues. I also know how to ventilate a trailer. I'm 100% happy. I hope you're happy with your decision too.
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Old 10-29-2016, 12:53 PM   #8
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Also, it appears that the frameless windows only open a little. Is that correct?

I am thinking that in the rain, we could have them open, whereas sliding windows need to be closed in the rain. Am I missing something?
If you can go see a trailer in your area with the frameless windows. In my opinion they open more than just a little. I was up in Chilliwack at the Escape factory and went through the demo 17B they had. The frameless windows seems just fine to me and I really liked the fact the back window opened. When the framed windows are ordered the back window does not open. Also, you'll find more window discussion at the General Escape - 17B Build Sheet link in this section or search on "frameless". Lots of great info on this forum and I'm grateful.
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I've had my trailer now for 2-1/2 years. I camp year around (except December) in the wet and around freezing temperatures all the way to 100 degrees. I have the dual pane sliders and have had zero condensation issues. I also know how to ventilate a trailer. I'm 100% happy. I hope you're happy with your decision too.
So glad to hear that Donna as I ordered the old style thermal windows. Hope to hear more on your ventilation clues. Had a very wet scamp during. & after the fall nog!
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If I were building a new one, I'd definitely go with the frameless windows. They just look better.
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