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Old 08-08-2013, 09:20 PM   #1
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The Old 17 vs 19 Question

Hi Everyone, first time post.
We are researching our first RV/Trailer and I know there are plenty of good posts on this topic. We have been tent campers for many years but a few bear experiences have convinced us that a fiberglass trailer is the only way we can continue what we love. Specifically camping off the beaten track. Understanding the limitations of a trailer, our preferred use would be National Park/BLM campgrounds and not RV parks with hook ups etc, so some forest roads, mild off road etc.
Budget is not an issue, so 17 vs 19, single vs tandem, axle lift for the 17. If you were going to poke your trailer into some out of the way spots - which one?
If the 19 will handle off road as well as the 17 it's no contest otherwise we would want to mod the forward dinette per attachment as the 17 rear dinette would be too small for us and the front standard layout is a bit narrow. Cannot find anyone that has done this mod?
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Old 08-08-2013, 09:29 PM   #2
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I have an older, used 17B and so there have been some upgrades in materials since then, but the layout is the same. I think this mod would take away the best counter space the 17B has - the top of the wardrobe closet. Also if you have a slide there that enlarges the bed, your bathroom door won't be able to open.
Have you looked at this thread? Bed Extension For 17B We went up to the factory after buying ours from the previous owner and got them to do it for us along with a couple other things. For 2 adults sharing a bed with 2 dogs, it basically makes the bed 80"x77" instead of 49"x77", with the caveat that our feet have to stay in the middle.
As far as I know the 19 handles as well, though I have seen at least one person mention that possibly turns aren't as tight with the tandem wheels. I'm sure some 19 owners will pipe up soon!
My initial thought would be: if you can tug it and you can afford it, and are already worried about size of the 17, go with the 19
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Old 08-08-2013, 09:34 PM   #3
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Hi guys, welcome to the fold.

I do lots of the sort of trailer camping you are planning to do with my 19 with no problem. The 17 would do fine too.

That layout with the sink and stove on the driver side was the first planned production layout for the 19 as shown in the image below. I had suggested to Reace that I would prefer to have all the tall bulky stuff all on one side, opening up things a bit. They did list it as a Plan B. That idea took with most of their customers, and they decided to go with only it.



In looking at the idea you drew up, I see two issues. One, the bathroom is scaled smaller than what it really is, and it is moved forward, not sure that could be done. Secondly, it appears that the door is moved, which can't be done. The door opening is moulded into the trailer, and moving it back is not viable, as you would infringe on the tandem axle wheel well.
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I've got a 17B and I don't see how you could possibly make the front dinette area into a bed that's larger than the rear dinette / bed. Where do your legs go?
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Old 08-08-2013, 09:53 PM   #5
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Hillary, thank you for your quick reply. I did see that bed extension you suggested on a previous post, but I don't think I would order a 17 without a least trying this out - the foot end seems a bit cramped - we are tall. I also agree with the bathroom door opening into the extension, I would ask if it could open the other direction. I just took the drawing off their website
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Old 08-08-2013, 09:57 PM   #6
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Jim, good to know the 19 can handle a bit of off road - thank you. My drawing was based on the one 17b from the Escape website, if not to scale I guess I have to talk to them
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I should have drawn a "bed down" diagram, basically sleeping the same way in the front dinette foot end would be the same 30" head end would be approx 40" a bit like a V berth in a boat, the closet would be approx 8" x 32"h enough to store the table.
Thank you for your input
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17b Bed "down" diagram sorry if my previous post was a bit confusing
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My drawing was based on the one 17b from the Escape website,
Ah, I was thinking you were doing your dreaming with the 19.
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Well the 19 would be a perfect fit but why spend the $$ if we don't need to, no kids, no pets. Probably should try and find a used 17b and give it a shot, do the upgrade to a 19 if we need to.
Your input to these forums has been invaluable to our research Jim, many thanks.
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