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07-08-2018, 08:04 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: BagEnd, California
Trailer: Soon to be: 2018 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 19
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Tire Change - Bottle or Rapid Jack
Hello, question about changing tires on a 5.0 TA - should I carry a bottle jack or will an Anderson Rapid Jack suffice in the need to change a tire?
I've seen some older threads about the Rapid Jack not working because of the axels Escape uses and wanted to see if there is any concensus one way or there other.
Thanks
Jim
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07-08-2018, 08:08 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,023
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First see if whatever jack you have for your tow vehicle will work for the trailer. No need to carry multiples of something that you may or may not ever need.
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Donna D.
Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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07-08-2018, 08:24 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: BagEnd, California
Trailer: Soon to be: 2018 Escape 5.0 TA
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Thanks Donna, I will certainly look into that, but I'm hoping a Rapid Jack will do the trick as it looks much faster and simpler.
Jim
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07-08-2018, 08:30 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
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I don't even know if the jack in my truck would work for my trailer, so it's not like I even follow my own suggestions! All I know is I hated the bottle jack in my last Ford F150 and would never use it for any reason after the first time. What a worthless piece of junk that was...
So, I carry a 1.5 ton aluminum racing floor jack. 3-1/2 pumps it goes up 18 inches. https://www.harborfreight.com/15-ton...ump-62160.html
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Donna D.
Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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07-08-2018, 08:38 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Floor jack is rather bulky compared to my 3 or 5 ton bottle jack ( can't remember ). Given that I've never used it, I'm not sure that the potential aggravation it offers is a problem.
What were the issues with yours?
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07-08-2018, 08:57 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
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The bottle jack in the old F150, wasn't a pump bottle jack, it was a twist this slot to get it to go up... piece of junk. Used the end of the lug wrench like a screw driver. Only once... only once.
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Donna D.
Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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07-08-2018, 09:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21
Posts: 280
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Hello all.
Picked up a sheet metal screw in Parker Arizona.
Brought out the rapid jack.Worked like a charm.It was fast and it was easy.I would be worried about a bottle jack doing damage to the fiber glass if slipping but of course caution is needed in all cases.
Allan.
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North Vancouver
Trailer Escape 21
2017
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07-08-2018, 09:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
The bottle jack in the old F150, wasn't a pump bottle jack, it was a twist this slot to get it to go up... piece of junk. Used the end of the lug wrench like a screw driver. Only once... only once.
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Oh heck, I have a used only once one that I was hoping to sell you. I agree, that type of jack isn't my go-to jack at home.
My only used once was in Alaska, and while it isn't my favorite type of jack it did the job. Not every situation is the same and there could be an occasion where I use it for the trailer. Not all flats happen in ideal locations.
My way of jacking up a trailer is primitive and low tech. I carry four 2x10 blocks that are hollowed out to lighten them and have a 1/2 think bottom added. This lets me lift the wheel enough to change a tire. And I use them all the time for leveling the trailer.
Ron
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07-09-2018, 12:22 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Olympia wa, Washington
Trailer: 5.0TA 2017
Posts: 2,255
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i have one of those drive on jacks used them for horse trailers they work great .
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07-09-2018, 12:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Tehachapi, California
Trailer: none
Posts: 515
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Hello, question about changing tires on a 5.0 TA - should I carry a bottle jack or will an Anderson Rapid Jack suffice in the need to change a tire?
I've seen some older threads about the Rapid Jack not working because of the axels Escape uses and wanted to see if there is any concensus one way or there other.
Thanks
Jim
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It's a good idea to practice changing a tire at home first, rather than "on-the-job" training.
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07-09-2018, 01:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: None, sold my 2014 5.0TA
Posts: 7,124
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I carry a bottle jack in case of emergency as it doesn't take up much space. For the one flat I had on the trailer I called Good Sam.
If you get one of the ramp jacks just make sure it lifts the tire high enough for the bad tire to clear the ground. I tried a neighbors Camco and it did not work. This is on a 2014 with leaf springs, not the torsion that you'll have.
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Bob
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07-09-2018, 02:19 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Janesville, WI, Wisconsin
Trailer: Escape 19 (sold) Escape 21 2014
Posts: 1,879
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I gladly pay roadside assistance insurance. I think it is a bit more than $2 a month.
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2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 now 2012 Toyota Sequoia V8
Escape 19' 2010 now 2014 Escape 21'
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07-09-2018, 04:20 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Surrey, British Columbia
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21
Posts: 699
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I used 2 or 3 (can’t remember which) levelling blocks to do all the bearings and brakes on my Escape 21. No need for a jack any longer other than for the TV.
Bob K
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07-09-2018, 06:30 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Naples, Florida
Trailer: New 21 Escape (not classic)10/16 Sold Lil Snoozy 7/16
Posts: 484
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tire changing
I use two 2by6 cut at 45 degree angles so one can just drive up on boards two boards on good tire will have enough room to take off bad tire .make sure you loosen the nuts befor driving up on boards Real easy and cheap
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07-09-2018, 08:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Mtns of NC, North Carolina
Trailer: 2013 19' Escape 1977 Trillium 1300
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I bought one of these recently and already needed it. Worked well, but it needs to be on firm ground.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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07-10-2018, 08:38 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NCBill
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According to my Amazon, I purchased that back in 2012.....
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Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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07-10-2018, 10:47 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,744
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jennykatz
I use two 2by6 cut at 45 degree angles so one can just drive up on boards two boards on good tire will have enough room to take off bad tire .make sure you loosen the nuts befor driving up on boards Real easy and cheap
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Yes, and versatile. I've used mine also for the rear wheels of the truck in difficult leveling situations.
Ron
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07-10-2018, 10:57 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: East Dover, Vermont
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA!
Posts: 678
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Hello, question about changing tires on a 5.0 TA - should I carry a bottle jack or will an Anderson Rapid Jack suffice in the need to change a tire?
I've seen some older threads about the Rapid Jack not working because of the axels Escape uses and wanted to see if there is any concensus one way or there other.
Thanks
Jim
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I am in the bottle jack camp. I carry a hydraulic bottle jack that does 5 or 6 ton. This will also allow me to change the tire on a fully loaded truck, trailer, whatever...I don't trust the jack that the truck came with. I have even used the jack to help level things in extreme cases I find it easier than driving up on something to jack and put the right blocks where they belong. Now if I could find the balance point, I could get the whole trailer up in the air with one jack...
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07-10-2018, 10:57 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
Yes, and versatile. I've used mine also for the rear wheels of the truck in difficult leveling situations.
Ron
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Ron,
Are you saying that adjusting the tow vehicle will level your trailer? or is that comment strictly for truck purposes?
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Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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07-10-2018, 10:59 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian and Sue
I am in the bottle jack camp. I carry a hydraulic bottle jack that does 5 or 6 ton. This will also allow me to change the tire on a fully loaded truck, trailer, whatever...I don't trust the jack that the truck came with. I have even used the jack to help level things in extreme cases I find it easier than driving up on something to jack and put the right blocks where they belong. Now if I could find the balance point, I could get the whole trailer up in the air with one jack...
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Not sure that would be a good idea for the frame and opposite axle side...
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Jim
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