Top (4) Options for Escape 19'

[RangerMan]

Originally Posted by Donna D.

Think of shiny black mud spread all along the bottom of the trailer. IMHO that's exactly what it looks like. FUGLY.

There is a hard and fast rule in the Army Infantry when moving to the field for training. On departure from Garrison, it begins to rain.

Mud is beautiful!

[cpaharley2008]

I remember when it was just yellow, not painted.........

[Iowa Dave]

Rome wasn’t built in a day, I had to come back the second day and paint it.
Iowa Dave

[AuthorSP]

Thanks for the link. I'm not worried about the looks, the visual just is to have a good understanding of what to expect. I like the idea of the protection probably more than the insulating properties.

My one concern, and part of the reason I wanted to see a picture, is wondering how hard it would be to cut away sections if pipe repairs or something (like the hepvo pipe valve) need to be done, and reliable it would be to re-insulate those parts.

[Iowa Dave]

We do not have the insulation under the 21 classic. A couple years ago another Escape owner noticed water dripping out of his foam under the fresh water tank. He asked me to send a couple pictures of the fresh water line as it came out of the tank. I did that. He cut away a chunk of foam maybe the size of your fist and found a loose clamp at the connection coming out of the tank that he could reference from the picture. He put on a new clamp. Problem solved. The owner then refoamed the area in. I think he added a little wire or hardware cloth to the area to give the foam repair something to bond to. Then once cured, the foam was cleanly shaped and painted. No long term problems. That’s the experience I had and it’s just as a helper. I’ve done a lot of insulation foam work on old buildings. We once had an old house (1880’s) where I used caulk and foam that I bought by the case. I am an artist with a caulk gun and smoothing tool. Hope this helps
Iowa Dave

[AuthorSP]

Very helpful, Dave, thanks!

[rubicon327]

Just a caution that Dave’s story is contrasted by other posts on the forum of headaches dealing with the foam to address tank leaks, inoperable tank heating pads, and tank level sensors to name a few. A brake wiring short or propane connection leak could be very difficult if not impossible to find. Not saying these are common issues but if you are one of the owners that have to deal with it you might not be very happy. Just something to take into consideration. If you are handy some owners have applied their own closed cell insulation like Foamular between the frame rails. Doesn’t include the tanks though.

My experience is that the Escape floor stays quite warm in very cold weather with the full fiberglass underbelly. In a Scamp with a single layer exposed OSB floor a pair of damp shoes will freeze to the floor. We did the DIY foam insulation above and it was much better.

[AuthorSP]

Good tip. I've wondered how hard it would be to insulate the bottom. For me it's more about protecting the stuff underneath. I'd be happy with removable panels and fiberglass insulation in the space, if that could work.

[rubicon327]

Originally Posted by AuthorSP

Good tip. I've wondered how hard it would be to insulate the bottom. For me it's more about protecting the stuff underneath. I'd be happy with removable panels and fiberglass insulation in the space, if that could work.

https://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f...tion-7046.html

[AuthorSP]

Originally Posted by rubicon327

https://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f...tion-7046.html

Great link, thank you!
The one draw back- there's no added protection for the tanks, pipes, wires and lines.