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Old 06-09-2016, 08:21 PM   #11
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Lets see. I've towed both, heck I still own both and while there's nothing difficult about hitching up and unhooking the 5th wheel, IMHO it's much easier with the bumper pull. But, I'm also a single traveler and have no one to spot me when I go to hookup either trailer.

Brian mentioned overall length. There's just a bit less than 20' of interior space in the 5th wheel. You'd get 18' pulling a 21'. The 5er has more cupboard space (we get both a pantry AND a closet), plus storage under the stairs. There's storage under the 21' bed which a 5er doesn't have.

The bed is queen size in the 5er and a double in the 21'. That's six inches difference in width. In the 21' you can sleep with your back against the wall and not fall out! There's a bit of space on each size of the 5er bed. Doubtful anyone sleeps right on the edge in a queen... there goes those six inches that you're not using.... three inches a side.

I don't find the stairs to be a problem in Ten Forward. I typically go upstairs on my hands and feet (toddler climb)... down on my rear (purposely!). It's really only two stairs and the loft.

Karen, you said your husband has had back surgery. I strongly suggest whatever trailer or size you buy... you also know how to hookup/unhook. Better to be prepared than stranded.

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Old 06-09-2016, 08:41 PM   #12
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I don't find the stairs to be a problem in Ten Forward. I typically go upstairs on my hands and feet (toddler climb)... down on my rear (purposely!). It's really only two stairs and the loft.
Sounds like we could start a new topic: How do you go up and down the stairs in a 5.0?
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Old 06-09-2016, 08:50 PM   #13
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... Plus I will want to carry a canoe on racks over my pickup bed which would not be possible with the 5.0TA.
Carrying a canoe is certainly easier without a fifth-wheel trailer in the way, but it can still be done with a fifth-wheel. The key is the length of the canoe, versus the length of the truck ahead of the hitch, how much support you decide that you need for your canoe, and what type of rack you're willing to mount on your truck. In any case, the canoe rides mostly over the cab, rather than over the bed.
A recent discussion (which is mostly about canoes rather than the rack): Canoes and the 5.0TA
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Old 06-10-2016, 03:01 AM   #14
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I've had both pull behind and now the 5.0TA. For me, the 5th wheel is so much easier to hook up than the pull behind. There are several different styles of 5th wheel hitches that may make a difference in the ease of hook up. I have the B W Patriot.
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Old 06-10-2016, 06:40 AM   #15
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Most of the pluses and minuses are covered, and can differ greatly from one person to another.

Much of it for me comes to layout, rather than hitch type. Preferring the bed to be out of the way this eliminated the 21 regardless of it's many other great attributes. The 19 served us very well, but when we saw the layout of the 5.0TA, we were sold on it.

There is no one layout that meets all criteria for everyone, there is always a compromise of some kind with trailers, especially these relatively (compared to the big stickies) larger ones. It is just a matter of figuring out which one will fit your style and circumstances better, and go for it. You can have a great experience with any model.

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Doubtful anyone sleeps right on the edge in a queen... there goes those six inches that you're not using.... three inches a side.

I don't find the stairs to be a problem in Ten Forward. I typically go upstairs on my hands and feet (toddler climb)... down on my rear (purposely!). It's really only two stairs and the loft.
My side of the bed is 12-16" wide, no matter what the mattress size is.
I do like to sleep at the edge, as I often have an appendage or two hanging out for cooling.

Using our sticky fifth for about 10 nights now, we found that is how we enter and exit the loft too, and ours steps are much taller too.
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Carrying a canoe is certainly easier without a fifth-wheel trailer in the way, but it can still be done with a fifth-wheel.
Our new Sea Eagle Travel Canoe will fit in the bed of the truck with no problem. I plan to build a custom box for it to stow in. I only got it delivered by Carl at the Escape Rally, and have not used it yet, but I have inflated it, and played around with a few ideas for outfitting. It meets my every expectation so far. I am just figuring out where to attach the rod holders, and how to install a mount for an electric motor, but am pretty much there.
https://www.seaeagle.com/TravelCanoe/TC16
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Old 06-10-2016, 08:09 AM   #16
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The clean truck bed is an issue, BUT if you're a new buyer, there are 5th wheel hitches now that come completely out of the bed and leave it flat. But that still entails pulling it out of there, and they ain't lightweights. You'll also see folks with the standard rails left in the bed, and they aren't too obtrusive, and rubber mats can be cut around them to leave a flat bed. But almost all small 5th wheels will have you sliding out of the end of the bed and heading "downstairs" to get to the bathroom. We're taller folks and a full size queen bed was a must have, and we have one in our 5.0TA...
If you have the goose neck built into the bed of the truck (excludes the need for bed rails and leaves the bed flat when not in use) you can use a Andersen aluminum goose neck 5th wheel hitch that only weighs 30 lbs, but expensive, $600.00 on Amazon. If you're going to be pulling your hitch out a lot, it would be worth the investment...I have the bed rail version, it only weighs 38 lbs. My previous hitch weighed 150 lbs, a true PITA.
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Old 06-10-2016, 08:29 AM   #17
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Ditto to Donna's comment on the 21's bed seeming wider because you can lean against the wall. Though I would have preferred the bedroom being out of the way and not right there when you open the door, I find it to be a non-issue. The nightly trip to the bathroom just requires one to slide off the bed (easy for us), take two or three steps and you are at the toilet. One can remain in semi-sleep mode. Our truck bed has a canopy and is filled with motors, BBQ, bins of fishing gear and can be locked. If I were over 6 ft 3 inches, the 5 TA's extra height would sway me the other way.

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Old 06-10-2016, 08:41 AM   #18
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Yes, it helps having the bathroom right there in the middle of the night, as you age you just have to remember to be sure and get up.......
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Old 06-10-2016, 08:46 AM   #19
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Um.... Not sure if anyone not trying one of the other models noticed, but the bathroom is really, really close by the bed in all Escape trailers.
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Old 06-10-2016, 02:19 PM   #20
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Either way, we want to become Escape owners in the near future😊. Thank you in advance for your help.
I would strongly suggest that you contact ETI and get names of folks that live near you that are willing to show you their trailer. You're going to get tons of information as to which trailer is better, but it really boils down to what is best for YOU folks. Not what is best for anyone else.

We were trying to decide between the 21 and the 5.0TA. While I still really like the 5.0, the 21 won out for us. However, you might decide differently. We also looked at the 19, but it was too small for our needs. Be sure to check out all of the different sizes that you can.

You need to try out each trailer and see what works for you. Flop on the beds and see how you can get in and out of them. Which bathroom works better. Can you both get around in the trailer at the same time comfortably. Only you two can decide which is best for you.

Good luck and have fun looking at those trailers. Heck, there might be forum members near you willing to show you their trailer. If someone is really helpful when showing you their trailer, be sure to remember their name for when you order. ETI will send a check to up to 2 different owners ($100 CND per owner) that let you view a trailer. But, they need to know that name at the time you order.
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