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Old 10-05-2009, 11:58 AM   #1
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two way vs three way refrigerators

On the ferries I took to Alaska they don't allow propane.
You have to turn off all your tanks.
But I had two batteries and found if I could get the refer very very cold before boarding (on "high" setting for four hours or so) then I could turn it down to lowest temp at boarding time and ride the batteries for five or six hours.
Only one time did I drain them both and that was after a six hour ride but the freezer stuff was still frozen

Something to keep in mind when you shop or thinking about doing some ferry rides.

PS I had jell bags in there too
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Old 10-05-2009, 12:36 PM   #2
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Re: two way vs three way refrigerators

Good to know. Thanks for the information.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:56 PM   #3
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Our 19 footer has the two way fridge but on our recent trip south we found that keeping things frozen while travelling was no problem, even in 90 degree heat. I kept a couple of bottles of water in the freezer and these helped to keep things frozen. We were really pleased with how well the fridge and freezer stayed cold. Were even able to travel with ice cream on board.
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Re: two way vs three way refrigerators

Like Ellen eluded to, the more mass you have in the freezer (and fridge) the longer you can last. If you knew you were not going to be able to use the fridge for an extended period, it would be wise to so as she does and add freeze as much water as possible ahead of time, and if you keep the fridge part well stocked with cold beer, you should be able to last a long time. (NO opening the door all the time to get another beer though)
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Like Ellen eluded to, the more mass you have in the freezer (and fridge) the longer you can last. If you knew you were not going to be able to use the fridge for an extended period, it would be wise to so as she does and add freeze as much water as possible ahead of time, and if you keep the fridge part well stocked with cold beer, you should be able to last a long time. (NO opening the door all the time to get another beer though)
And with a three way you don't have to keep the refrigerator stuffed.
And you don't have to plan anything.

I should not have labeled my post "two way vs three way refrigerator". Makes it sound like a contest.

It was just a heads up for those planing on taking an eight or ten hour ferry and never knew they couldn't keep the gas on.... the planing part.

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Re: two way vs three way refrigerators


You also have to have the propane off, traveling through tunnels and most advice is to have the tanks turned off when traveling period.

Anyway, the fridge stays cold and even the freezer does its job remarkably well when traveling for hours.

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"Anyway, the fridge stays cold and even the freezer does its job remarkably well when traveling for hours."


Indeed it does.. I have one and I know.
But also having had first hand recent experience with my dometic I can assure you that you cant keep a freezer full of halibut and salmon frozen for ten hours in the 85 degree bowls of an AMH ferry without power. If all I had was a two way I would had to throw out a lot of fish. Maybe this is why Dometic makes a 3-way?
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Re: two way vs three way refrigerators

Have you looked at the size of the freezer in the three-way ( the one that Escape uses )? If you're transporting a lot of fish there are Styrofoam packs and dry ice used by the fishing camps. And, your battery won't last anyway.

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Have you looked at the size of the freezer in the three-way ( the one that Escape uses )? If you're transporting a lot of fish there are Styrofoam packs and dry ice used by the fishing camps. And, your battery won't last anyway.

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I have a Dometic Americana RM 2354 Americana escape uses a RM 2451 Americana and they are dimensional exactly the same. The difference is mine is 3-way. So I guess i have looked at them, right?
I am aware of styro foam and jell, bagalo... what made you think I didn't? this wasn't not my first Alaska rodeo ya know. Those styro jell packs will not last "thirty days", balgo... the fish HAD to stay frozen in my freezer.
I don't know where to go with your second statement about the battery since I clearly stated the batteries DID last.
I also don't know where you are going with this or why.. I just spent two months going to Alaska and back and I am just reporting "exactly" what transpired. Is there any statement I can make that could agree with other than "there is no reason to buy a 3-way refrigerator" ?

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Can you post a picture of this halibut that fits in a travel trailer freezer?

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Ron,

You need to re-read your post. In fact you said the batteries didn't last beyond six hours and that the trip is ten hours.
In my post, I said nothing about jell ( gel actually ) packs or thirty days. I mentioned the system used by fish camps to get frozen fish back to Europe with their clients.
And, besides, the important thing is having enough room for beer and keeping it cold.

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And, besides, the important thing is having enough room for beer and keeping it cold.
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Can you post a picture of this halibut that fits in a travel trailer freezer?

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I guess, because you are the moderator it is ok to question my veracity.

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Ron,

You need to re-read your post. In fact you said the batteries didn't last beyond six hours and that the trip is ten hours.

They went dead on one approx six hour trip BUT as I clearly said before that, not on the other trips. In a separate post I said the fish stayed frozen for ten hours (Bella Coola to Port hardy).. not that the batteries lasted ten hours. I had no choice in this case as it was an unplanned exit out of Bella Coola.. if the fish spoiled they spoiled

In my post, I said nothing about jell ( gel actually ) packs or thirty days.

I know you didn't mention it. I did just so we would be clear that it was not an option for me because it sounded like you were offering it as one.

I mentioned the system used by fish camps to get frozen fish back to Europe with their clients


And, besides, the important thing is having enough room for beer and keeping it cold.


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You say and others do that the refrigerator stays cool a long time.
It either does or it doesn't.
If it does the batteries will not be needed much and wont run down
If it doesn't the batteries will be on all the time and run down.

You pick it.

But here is what I found.

If you run the refrigerator for a couple hours at the highest setting to get it coldest then you can turn it down to the lowest (which as far as I know will keep the fish frozen for days) and the batteries will not be needed as much over the trip time.

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Re: two way vs three way refrigerators

Hi: All... Is there room for another Contrarian in here We have a two way fridge and both ways are "HERS". She allows some beer in there so I for the most part stay out of it. Alf
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Re: two way vs three way refrigerators

We have a 2 way in our current Scamp. We always try to keep the freezer full (with blue ice if not food). That really seems to help keep the refrig cold if we need to turn it off propane for any reason.

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Re: two way vs three way refrigerators

With a 3 way, all bases are covered, but I do not know if one can have one's car engine on to keep up the battery, on a ferry.
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