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Old 06-27-2015, 05:44 PM   #11
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A couple of thoughts...

First, don't let towing a 21 intimidate you. Towing is really not that challenging. The difference between the 17 and the 21 is pretty small, and in fact some of the advantages go to the 21 -- the tandem axle has several advantages: more stable ride, less serious consequences from a flat tire, more control when backing up.

Second, if you are concerned about towing at all, then I think you maybe should be just a little bit worried about towing a 17 with a vehicle that has a 3500 pound limit. You're pushing the vehicle's limit there. A new tow vehicle means you can add safety margin...

I agree with what everyone else is saying: if you haven't been inside the different trailers, you really need to make that happen. You're talking about an investment of a few tens of thousands of dollars. It's worth a trip to Chilliwack to see them all side-by-side if you don't have any other alternative.

Our experience: I was originally thinking the 17 or even a 15. The wife insisted on the extra space of the 19 if we were going to consider longer trips, and I had no basis to argue. I don't regret going with the larger trailer, though I'm not certain it's essential. I think that it's a decision each buyer has to make for themselves.


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Old 06-27-2015, 06:07 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Jill View Post
We have a 21ft on order. We love the layout of it and the fact that it meets all our needs for the camping part.

However we're having 2nd thoughts. If we get the 17b instead then we don't have to buy a truck (can tow it with our 3500lb max current SUV). We won't have to store it (we have room to park it on our driveway). It has all the functionality of the 21 (but smaller bed, bath, storage etc). As a lighter and narrower trailer it should be less intimidating to tow (we're new to towing).

We keep going back and forth on this and can't make a decision. We will soon be retired and can foresee multiple trips per year, up to a month or 2 at a time. This is for my husband and I plus our 2 little dogs. No grandkids yet.

I checked with the good folks at Escape and they say we can make this change if we want.

I don't know. In some ways it seems that the older we get, the more indecisive we are! Any other considerations to help sway us one way or the other?

Jill, have you seen an Escape? Which ones? You can surely see one or more in your general area. There should be no need to go to Chilliwack. We could tell you better about this if we knew what you have seen.

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Old 06-27-2015, 07:45 PM   #13
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Perhaps the Bandon gathering:
Bandon Oregon 2015

or the later Fall NOG:
2015, Oct. 1-4, 2015: 2015 Fall NOG - Northern Oregon Gathering

would be an alternative to going to Chilliwack for you Jill?
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Old 06-27-2015, 08:19 PM   #14
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I've had a few campers and have never really spent much time inside any of them other than to wind down at the end of the day and sleep, But lifestyle also has a lot to do with that as well.
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Old 06-27-2015, 08:28 PM   #15
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Lots of good input everyone -thank you! Unfortunately we only have a week or so to make our decision. We love the 21 so we would be choosing the 17 only because we wouldn't need a new TV and we think it would be easier to tow. We have seen the 19 and the 21 and will see the 17 next week (thank you Sandra!).

Doug you had it right. The thought of towing the 21 is a bit intimidating. I would imagine the size could be a challenge in narrow freeways, gas stations, campgrounds etc.

I think the issue boils down to justifying buying both a trailer and a truck. And if we think the hassle factor of the larger trailer will outweigh its benefits.
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Old 06-27-2015, 08:29 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Slickheadhunter View Post
....But lifestyle also has a lot to do with that as well.
And weather...
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Old 06-27-2015, 08:31 PM   #17
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Think you should get the 21 and sign up for towing lessons at Valley Driving School, as other novices have done.
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Old 06-27-2015, 08:32 PM   #18
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We are glad to have the 17b on our property. The 19 would not fit. The convenience of having the trailer on site is huge for us.

I agree with the poster who advised double checking your TV with the view of using it with a 17. We want lots of margin.

The double axle 19 would be a benefit that is really worth looking at.

We have grandchildren. We got our 17b bunk bed ready. It will be crowded when they come along. However, in our plans, grandkids will only be along for a night or two. So the trailer has to work for us.

Enjoy your research!

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Old 06-27-2015, 08:45 PM   #19
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And weather...
Snow, sleet or rain I'm in the woods during hunting season! I did compromise from a 15 to a 17 for my wife! 😁
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Old 06-27-2015, 08:56 PM   #20
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